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:	post by RustedAngel at 2004-10-05 10:40:09

so snake is sorta mad at me, and everything about the fest apparently :( Here's basically the convo taken from the snakenet board. I know I wasn't the only one that thought Liquid Violence were skinheads. I apologized about assuming that and now I'm being accused of not supporting any of the bands even though I watched every band play their entire sets which is more than I can say for some of the people there. Am I being the asshole here, I don't even know? Someone help me out here.

Originally posted by Snake
[br]Dude, they are from Buffalo. They weren't supporting their home country. At least the last time I checked the Germans hadn't over run western NY.

I thought maybe their families originated from Germany...but I guess not? why are they sportin' german flags then? just curious?

I'm no expert on skinheads, but I though the term "skinhead" came from the total absence of hair. They all had mohawks. So again, I honestly don't know where anyone was coming up with Nazi skinheads from. Seeing as how Dan kept relaying to me how pissed off the area bands were that they were going on before a band they never heard of and how everyone was going to leave when they came on, I wasn't surprised that only a handful of SnakeNet people were up front while they were playing. It was yet another example of the weak support the area bands showed for the fest.

I've met some skins that have some hair, it doen't require you to be bald. For the record, I never complained about our timeslot, and again, I watched their entire set as well as all the other bands. I wasn't the only one who had this thought cross their mind so don't get upset with me over it.

The guys in Liquid Violence work with me putting on shows in the Western NY area....shows that draw a helluva lot more then the handful of people that came out for this fest...and shows that have bands from out of the area on them too. The complete lack of support from the NE bands was appalling on both days. Instead of taking the opportunity to network with some bands that were playing on your turf, not only didn't you guys support them, you come out with this sort of bullshit.

honestly, even though they are not nazi skins, I wasn't digging their punk/hardcore music. Again, I still watched them.

I expected better out of you, Tom. Your attitude thoroughly digusts me. Its no wonder attendance at the show was piss poor. Its bad enough that all of these local bands combined can't draw more then 70 people, but their total lack of support for anyone but themselves is inexcusable. Maybe that is why there were more people there from SnakeNet then any band drew through the door and why Serg isn't going to let bands play the Bombshelter without selling tickets in the future.

Pathetic!

Snake, attendance at the bombshelter is always piss poor, you saw the shadows fall show, sure there was a decent amount of people there but that's a HUGE show for the area. There were not as many people there as their would be if they played the palladium in MASS. Even cannibal corpse can hardly draw in manchester. As a matter of fact the first time they came to Manch. w/ Hate Eternal there was about 60 people there tops...The Bloodletting tour show at the bombshelter was also a poor turnout considering all the bands were absolutely sick! (gorgasm, spawn of possession, pyaemia, severed savior, goratory, ascendancy) there was about 50 people at that show.

You guys really blew a good opportunity. Not one single band drew even 20 people through the door. Serg and I were willing to take a financial hit to try to build something in the area for you people and this is the sort of reaction we get. Yeah...you thank us for putting this show on, but actions speak louder then words, man. Your gratitude was shown by how well you rounded up a crowd and your support of the bands from outside your area that drove hundreds of miles to peform.

We didn't blow anything. Todd the door guy told me that we drew 26 people halfway through the show. So what are you talking about there? I watched all the bands. Never did I hang outside while a band was playing despite the horrible smoke problem in there. Stop assuming that I wasn't supporting anything just because I mistakenly thought a band was 'about' something I disagree with.

I realize that most metal acts don't have big fan bases, but the turnout the bands on this bill pulled was a fucking joke by any standard. Make whatever lame excuses that you like for the poor attendance, but all it would have taken was for each band to draw 20 people through the door and we would have had over 200 people there. For certain I made a mistake in overestimating the type of support we could draw out for this fest, but in the end, these types of shows live and die on the locals getting out their crowd and it was pretty appearent what sort of job they did.

We drew over 26, I as well as the Rev RTTP and Carina noticed we had the most people out front for us as well. I can't speak for anyone else. I'm actually suprised we have a fanbase at all, we've only been playing shows since June. I've been working my ass off in this band, part of the reason why I broke up with my girlfriend because I wanted to focus 100% on the band and it sucks. Here's another weird story, We played another Bar literally down the street called Milly's Tavern back in July w/hcn,laz and over 130 people showed up! We got paid $110 for playing a 15 minute set opening! I'm pretty sure the club itself did some heavy advertising. I think if Serge hired someone to do club promo the bombshelter could potentially start to draw attendance like that for even local shows!!!

Yeah...I heard plenty of crying and bitching about time slots. I'm sure the fact that 3 of the local bands going on before 8pm is the excuse you'll use for your shitty job getting out a crowd. That doesn't wash with me though. I have done tons of shows and had afternoon crowds larger then the total that showed up for this fest.

I, or my band never complained about our timeslot, we were actually grateful that we got to play 3rd. Dude, why are you blaming me for what you think is a failure? All this spawned from a false accusation which I already apologized for.

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