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:	post by ShadowSD at 2004-12-17 13:38:25

succubus said:

i think people have an issue with pay to play shows

So do I, but I don't think that's a fair characterization here, I've booked Sacreligion at Club Marque several times and they've NEVER had to pay to play, in fact they always made money. I only book bands on shows like this if they tell me they can sell more than enough tickets not to pay anything out of pocket.

(And if it were up to me, ALL the ticket money would go to the bands. Unfortunately, it costs money to rent venues, make tickets, hire roadies/dooruys, and bring a huge PA from Connecticut, and I can't afford to pay it all myself.)

Try and find another venue where a local band can make $100 for selling twenty tickets. The Webster pays you nothing until you sell forty tickets and after that pays you $1 per ticket. Jarrod's doesn't pay you a penny until twenty-five tickets. Even most dinky hall shows will only give you a couple dollars per ticket if you sell twenty, so that's not even half what you'd make with this system.

And as far as shows with no tickets, where everyone comes to the door? A friend of mine's band recently played Club Liquid and drew around fifty people, only to be told by the end of the night, well you guys drew ten people so here's fifty bucks. The club was the one with all the money in their hands, so what was the band going to do? Fuck that shit. The shows I put on are the ONLY ones around where all the money exhanges hands between myself and the bands before the clubs can even touch it, so there's no chance of a club owner suddenly deciding they want a bigger cut, or saying a band brought less people than they did. If my friend's band had played one of my shows instead the one they did, they would have made $400.

I designed this whole pay system so bands could MAKE money. If that stops happening, I'll stop doing this.

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