well then lets make this real simple...you and bill arruda can fight one on one no weapons...bill c will keep your people from jumping in, and i will keep mine from doing the same...if you and bill dont like each other then thats how it will go, ive already talked to both bill A and bill C about it...bill arruda hasnt said shit on any boards for quite a while now, so unless you can prove to me hes said anything about you or your brother (who he doesnt even know) then id say your instigating all this yourself...this whole fights on the internet is getting old fast, and as you can tell myself and most of my boys dont bother wasting our time fighting online...but bill c brought it to my attention, so now im involved...so thats the deal - one on one and end it fair or just drop the whole thing, and ill tell bill a to do the same alright? oh and to the enemy of the state kid, why dont you mind your own business kid...i wrote the second dehumanized cd with rich a few years ago, but yet i dont know who you are...? what is your affiliation with the actual members of the band? thanks.