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[QUOTE="Y_Ddraig_Goch:708982"]DaveFromTheGrave said:[QUOTE]Y_Ddraig_Goch said:[QUOTE]we continue to crack jokes, but who is doing anything to stop these robber barons from ruining our economy?[/QUOTE] What can we do? [/QUOTE] what did they do before world war one and two? you should read up on the socialist and worker's parties that were literally days away from overthrowing the capitalist government until the mexican war was launched, then ww1, then ww2. They made tons of progress for us, I say we continue that progress, the dream of our forefathers in the early 1900's was to have an economy where the people owned the means of productions so they could equally distribute the profits to all those who worked...whereas today we make an obscenely low amount compared to our main employers. It's really not that hard, let's used a foundry for example. all the equipment and the building is owned by the employer who pays you whatever he wants, usually the lowest he can. If all the workers co owned the building and the equipment they could increase the pay they all receive tenfold, if they were free of greed that is. It wouldn't cost much to own the means of production cooperatively so the pay would still be a lot more than normal, say for example the head guy who owned everything made 100 million in profits a year, whereas you as a worker only made 40,000 a year, if that. If you owned the means of production you could redistribute this 100 million that is made in profits in the form of wage increases for everyone else, obviously still keeping it in scale with what people make, for example the janitor wouldn't be making the same as whatever the guy doing the hardest job was doing. Yet in school you are taught that socialism is fascism, when it was the socialist movement that brought us the 40 hour week, health insurance, workman's comp, child labor laws, minimum wage...if it wasn't for the strikes of workers in the early 1900's we would be a lot worse off...imagine what we could do if we still had movements like that? anyways that was a long winded, howard zinn inspired reply.[/QUOTE]
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