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:	post by Mark_R at 2011-12-06 09:52:37

To me, Electric Wizard are one of the ultimate sludge-y bands, but I have no issue with them being considered a classic doom band either. (What makes the difference to me is EW's fuzzed out/dirty sound compared to more obviously traditional doom bands like Count Raven for example.)

Currently, hipsterism (I guess) happens to be going on a lot in metal, but it could be in any area of art. Hipsters will probably have moved on from metal to other things long before metalheads stop accusing others of being hipsters. I do agree that the perception & accusation of hipsterism is greater than the reality of it. Part of that comes from a general co-opting of the word itself to just replace former favored terms like newbie, poser, and 'person I don't like', even though 'hipster' did denote something different.

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