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returntothepit >> discuss >> Ego death, death metal and black metal by infoterror on Nov 19,2006 10:45pm
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toggletoggle post by infoterror  at Nov 19,2006 10:45pm edited Nov 19,2006 10:45pm
Ego-death is a concept that psychedelics and zen monks alike discovered. In it, the person realizes they are one part of a giant system, and stop seeing the world through themselves. They see themselves in the world, but they see the bigger process first. Ego-death tends to lead to a transcendent state where one sees all of consciousness as a continuum, and becomes less afraid of d-y-i-n-g.

"Only Death is Real" conveyed a lot more than I had first established. This was a statement of ego-death: no matter how big you think you are or how important, death is more real than your visions, so you must accept nothingness. To accept nothingness is to cast aside the unhealthy parts of the ego and to give it context, so that the ego is a motivic force but only one of many on a planet. To see only death as real is to wonder what else can be real. The answer is right past the end of our noses: the world is real, and it's a continuum that renews itself, so it's worth working for. If you like life, you work to make it better. If you hate life, you deny the reality of the world and you go further inward into the self and its desires.

Ego death, death metal and black metal



toggletoggle post by CNV at Nov 20,2006 12:16am
haha

more of your fucking poppycock bullshit

Your a subverter of instinct

ballocks

Violation or neglect of instinct has painful consequences of a physiological and psychological nature for whose removal medical help, above all, is required... (Jung)






toggletoggle post by CNV at Nov 20,2006 12:17am
Catholic priests subverted their instincts to

bunch of little kids got raped because it

you are a backwards motherfucker



toggletoggle post by annnonymous at Nov 20,2006 5:53am
Clearly, CNV has never read anything by Sagan, Hawking, nor Suzuki.

But what can you really expect from scene-whoring fanboys with unfocused, non-commited yet easily adaptable "ideologies."



toggletoggle post by Ryan_M at Nov 20,2006 7:20am
CNV said:
Violation or neglect of instinct has painful consequences of a physiological and psychological nature for whose removal medical help, above all, is required...


Humans actually don't have instincts, we do what we do by learning from experience...it's one of the things that seperates us from other animals.
If I violate an "instinct" what I'm really doing is ignoring the feelings experience has taught me to feel.



toggletoggle post by CNV at Nov 20,2006 10:18am
annnonymous said:
Clearly, CNV has never read anything by Sagan, Hawking, nor Suzuki.

But what can you really expect from scene-whoring fanboys with unfocused, non-commited yet easily adaptable "ideologies."


Scene whoring? we aint part of a scene faggot




toggletoggle post by CNV at Nov 20,2006 10:20am
Ryan_M said:
CNV said:
Violation or neglect of instinct has painful consequences of a physiological and psychological nature for whose removal medical help, above all, is required...


Humans actually don't have instincts, we do what we do by learning from experience...it's one of the things that seperates us from other animals.
If I violate an "instinct" what I'm really doing is ignoring the feelings experience has taught me to feel.


eating is not an instinct ?

your as fucking pathetic as infoterror




toggletoggle post by anonymousteinberg at Nov 20,2006 11:47am
That guy Kant wrote about "intuition," but he actually made sense. Suzuki who wrote the introduction to Zen? That was guy was quite sharp... for a gentile.



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