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returntothepit >> discuss >> Ayahuasca Appreciation by ouchdrummer on Jul 11,2008 2:57pm
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toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Jul 11,2008 2:57pm
Anyone familiar with this? I have brewed and drank it about 40-50 times in the last couple years. For a while me and my roomate would brew it almost every night. I have great recipes that work "wonders" if anyones interested.

For those of you that aren't familiar, it is a brew made from an MAOI, and a DMT containing plant/root/seed/animal/whatev.. when made correctly "La-purga" will let you see the logos, and still get to bed in about 4 or 5 hours, and actually feel BETTER the next day. No shit.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 11,2008 3:02pm
god bless you.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Jul 11,2008 3:08pm
and people say heavy psychedelic use makes people strange. Ya know there was a huge cult of people i think in New Mexico who had something like 2000 gallons of this stuff siezed, and it went to the supreme court, and just like Peyote for Native Americans, it was considered legal so they gave it all back..

-another funny story, my buddy has the chemical structure for DMT tatooed on his upper arm.... and we got arrested with that along with about 15 other things down the cape last summer, and they had NO IDEA what it was... until they saw his tatoo and looked it up. FAIL .. DMT is a schedule I substance under federal law.. although the judge had no idea what it was either and so let us get off with a continuance without a finding. Thank goodness.

REV: not interested in the recipe?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 11,2008 3:26pm
I thought you sneezed.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jul 11,2008 3:31pm
i have never heard of this but i am very interested.



toggletoggle post by quintessence  at Jul 11,2008 3:52pm
I did the crystal form of DMT or whatever that is produced in a lab. I pretty much blacked out and puked all over the place. Granted i was on a bunch of other drugs. Stupid stupid night..... ahh youth. I remember the initial onset of it though and it was mind blowing.



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Jul 11,2008 4:11pm
psychedelics never really had much allure for me. did mushrooms a few times and it was fun, but i dunno... not my thing. plus, i'm a pretty fucking horrible person, so anything that really "opens you up" and puts you on that whole introspective journey-within deal... not such a good time



toggletoggle post by SW at Jul 12,2008 11:35am
He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Jul 14,2008 12:41pm
Yeti said[orig][quote]
i have never heard of this but i am very interested.


If you want recipe/preperation info/where do order all the stuff (relatively cheap, totally legal... until you cook it.) And not dangerous to make either, hit me up ouchdrummer@gmail.com



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Jul 14,2008 12:45pm
this stuff really is about the best psychedelic experiance on the planet.. Yes i have smoked it in the freebase form too,and it's a lot of fun, but holy moly it's overwhelming. Done with the tea Ayahuasca (translates into "The Dead Vine") it is much easier to handle, and so, so good.



toggletoggle post by aril at Jul 14,2008 12:50pm
what kind of psychedelic experience is it? auditory, visual, introspective? the whole 9 yards?



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Jul 14,2008 1:02pm
All of it, it's a hallucinogenic tryptamine, so it has a lot of the same Dopamine/Seratonin properties as say, extasy does, although it doesn't put the strain of an amphetamine on the receptors. It is highly visual, and i mean really highly, like you will see other dimensions if you drink enough, auditory hallucinations are common although outweighed by the visuals, and the introspectiveness is outta control. Talk about a drug that you feel like you have a whole better outlook after. Read some facts about it here:
www.erowid.org
go to the search engine under "plants and drugs" and type in "Ayahuasca" it should have all sorts of info on it. I would put the exact link, but its blocked from my work. DON'T use the recipes on the site though, they are skewed to protect themselves from lawsuits (thats my theory anyways) anyone who wants recipes email me, i have them saved already in my email.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Jul 14,2008 1:06pm
Interesting fact: Dimethyl-Tryptamine (DMT) is found in your BRAIN!! Thats right, the penial gland, the same gland that produces melotonin also produces DMT. It's theorized that's why people have TRIP like reactions to Near death experiances, or the life flashing before your eyes as you die, because DMT is released when these things happen.

As a freebase you can smoke it by itself, but this is a Schedule I, class A, go to jail for a LONG TIME drug. (unless you get a REAL stupid judge... Whew..) But as a tea you need to combine it with an MAOI (which makes your body break down toxins slower) so that it becomes orally active.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jul 14,2008 1:27pm
i love mushrooms, perhaps a little too much, and i'm looking for something that does roughly the same thing, but with less of a digestive impact. mushrooms wreak havoc. but i'm only interested in the organic side.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Jul 15,2008 7:41am
well, like i said, everything to make this tea is found totally in nature, mostly in Brazil, but nonetheless, its all organic. And while you puke on it, every time that is... you puke twenty minutes after you drank it, and you (your stomach) feel/s great for the rest of the night.



toggletoggle post by raihn at Aug 24,2008 11:41am
ouchdrummer, i've been reading up on this and DMT. you're supposedly supposed to feel "connected" to another universe or dimension. some people even claim seeing and talking to beings.
this is interesting. see you at boarcorpse.



toggletoggle post by DaveFromTheGrave  at Aug 24,2008 11:44am
goatcatalyst said[orig][quote]
i'm a pretty fucking horrible person, so anything that really "opens you up" and puts you on that whole introspective journey-within deal... not such a good time


this is why I'm afraid to indulge in psychedelics. While I might in reality be a much better person morally than 90% of the average schmucks, my mind tends to beat me down pretty hard sometimes, and I don't think giving it free reign would improve anything.



toggletoggle post by aril at Aug 25,2008 1:06pm
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Aug 25,2008 1:22pm
yeah good stuff.
so here's ingrediants.:

20grams finely ground root bark from Mimosa Hostillis (order only the inner bark, you can tell its only inner bark because it will be all pinkish, not brown.)

3 grams of finely ground Syrian Rue seeds. (Put these into a capsule, or roll in a small piece of paper towel and swallow like a pill. (Parachute))

SIMMER the root bark in 4 cups of water (with a TBSP of lemon juice) in a small pan, DO NOT BOIL, with a cover on the whole time. Strain thru t-shirt or something as fine as a tshirt, put the stuff back in the pan, add more water, repeat.

Do this three times, after the third time, put the combined three concoctions on medium heat and let them simmer till there is about 4cups worth of liquid left. Suger the hell outta it when its still hot. Put it in the freezer in a shallow dish for 20 min.

Right when you put the mixture in the freezer to cool, you should take the syrian rue, whether by capsule, or parachute. Make sure that its in you a whole 30min before the tea.

When you drink the tea:

Chug, Chug, Chug-the stuff tastes awful. You are GOING to throw up, and if you try to analize the tastse at all, it will happen a lot sooner. This stuff is really really potent, so its hard to keep it down with that taste in your mouth. I recommend having mouthwash handy for RIGHT after you drink it to wash the taste outta your mouth.

Once you'ce washed out your mouth, dont think your done, you have to seriously focus on staying sitting down, not moving at all, not breathing too heavy, thinking calming thoughts. Actually thinking about sex really halps me not puke, but it might not be the same for everyone.

If you can hold it down for 15min, your probably good, but sometimes you need a little more time that that. After 25min, puke that shit up, because RIGHT after it comes up, you feel wonderful. And your stomache wont bother you at all the rest of the night. UNLESS you take more, which if you like it as much as i do, you might drink more as soon as you realize you've peaked.

HEAVY visuals - like mescaline, stronger that lsd and psilocybin
HEAVY body high - like mdma, without all the twitchyness
HEAVY introspection - like your an investagotor looking into the vortex that is your life.



toggletoggle post by raihn at Aug 25,2008 1:30pm
make some of this and i'll see you at boarcorpse



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Aug 25,2008 2:22pm
raihn said[orig][quote]
make some of this and i'll see you at boarcorpse

you mean at a boarcorpse show? Unfortunately we dont have any yet, your welcome to come to one of our practices and trip though...



toggletoggle post by raihn at Aug 25,2008 2:32pm
im going to be at your next practice... spiritually



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Jun 9,2010 2:19pm
bump.... because i now have all the makings...



toggletoggle post by Anonymous at Jun 9,2010 2:29pm
""HEAVY visuals - like mescaline, stronger that lsd and psilocybin
HEAVY body high - like mdma, without all the twitchyness
HEAVY introspection - like your an investagotor looking into the vortex that is your life. ""

Probably could not be explained any better. The experience is like trying to recall a dream and explain it to someone. It just doesn't make sense to put into words. I've had some heavy trips but this was just unparalled. Exotic, spiritual, serene-surrealistic madness.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Jun 9,2010 2:54pm
yup yup. the tea is INMO even more fun. Not because it's more intense... it's only slightly less intense, and you have a good 3-5 hours to enjoy it. There's a lot more introspection to be done in 5 hours then there is in 5 minutes.



toggletoggle post by hauptpflucker   at Jun 9,2010 3:35pm edited Jun 9,2010 3:36pm
ouchdrummer said[orig][quote]
raihn said[orig][quote]
make some of this and i'll see you at boarcorpse

you mean at a boarcorpse show? Unfortunately we dont have any yet, your welcome to come to one of our practices and trip though...
that sounds like a fucking intense experience... can i get in on that? hah



toggletoggle post by The Nature Boy Ric Flair at Jun 9,2010 3:56pm
Wooooo!



toggletoggle post by Anonymous at Jun 9,2010 4:03pm
Really it was HARD for about 3-5 minutes, then I wandered like a burnt out gypsy hippie for 10 additional minutes piecing myself back together.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Jun 9,2010 4:24pm
i know silly.



toggletoggle post by nekronaut  at Dec 17,2011 10:05pm



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