Do we have a Zionist Occupied Government (ZOG)? Or are people who use
the term "ZOG" mentally deranged?

We can get the answer by looking at the reaction to the wounding of
several Jewish children in the Granada Hills Jewish Community Center
(Los Angeles) way back on August 11th of 1999. Let us then compare that
reaction to another well-known incident in which children were harmed:
the /Waco Holocaust/.

In Waco, of course, the children were not Jewish: they were white,
black, and hispanic. And they were not merely wounded. They were
killed, stone dead, shot, burned, gone, ended. You get the point, errr,
you /know/ the point. Nor were there just three. /*Twenty-four*/
children under the age of 16 are said to have died, along with two
unborn children.

Just days after three Jewish children were wounded in the Granada Hills
incident, a suspect was hunted down, captured, and in captivity and
criminal charges were placed against him immediately. Everyone from the
Mossad to the JCPA to the ADL were putting forth their efforts for
vengeance. But 12 years after Waco, where 24 non-Jewish children (Goyim)
were murdered and the identity of the murderers is /known/, no criminal
charges have been filed. Hmmm.

Over the cornice of the Supreme Court Building in Washington, DC are
these words: Equal Justice Under Law. So why are the murderers of
Gentile children still walking free?

The explanation is that our government has abandoned the principles of
*Anglo-Saxon law* and now operates on principles of Talmudic law.

Open the Talmud, the holy book of the Jews. I am using the Soncino
Press edition for reference. Open the Tractate Sanhedrin, and turn to
57a. You will learn that according to Talmudic law, if a Jew murders a
Gentile, the Jew suffers no death penalty. Then turn to 58b. You will
find that if a Gentile strikes a Jew in the jaw, the Gentile, having
stricken the "Divine Presence" suffers the death penalty.

If you're not one of the "Chosen", your life and very existence is
somehow /less meaningful/, according to this Talmudic system/. /

The murder of the Gentile children at Waco did not offend those who
control America. That is why the co-conspirators in the murders of the
Waco children, William "Blowjob Billy" Clinton and Janet "Mankind" Reno
were still allowed to occupy the highest offices in this land. Can we
imagine this happening if the Davidian children had been Jews? *Oy Vey!
*The ruling Jews might well have put Clinton and Reno before a firing
squad, or arranged accidents, or assassinations (Dissident style!), or
suicides. Maybe run them over with an American made D-9 bulldozer!

The message is simple: Gentile children can be murdered at will; but
Jewish kids...they're, like, PEOPLE...ya know? "God's /chosen/ people".

So, yes, Humanoids, The Zionist Occupied Government is real. The
influence in our Government *exists*, in every sense of the word. It's
not a "myth" as the Conditioned and the ConditionERS would have you
believe. You'd have to be deranged /*not*/ to know it. Never confuse
awareness with lunacy.

Find your past, your heritage, your history and the legacy of your
forefathers and ancestors. Denounce Semitism, all the religions it
encompasses, and all the war, death, destruction, & despair these
religions have caused throughout the past 2000 years.

Descendants of Shem are the scourge of the Earth. They should pay.

*Sem·i·tism
*(sm-tzm)
/n./

1. A Semitic word or idiom.
2. Semitic traits, attributes, or customs.
3. A policy or predisposition in favor of Jews.


(Written by Jonny Wrecking Balls)

Our government is currently WAY more influenced by Christian Evangelists than it is by Zionists.

ya man, didnt you know jesus was a republican?

Uh, it was the government who did waco. Who injured the jews?

retzam said:

Actually, there was a really great article in the Stone about this months back (As shitty as everyone thinks the Stone is, it has great political columns if you have liberal views). If I could only dig it up...

Here it is: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story...liticsArchive&pageregion=mainRegion

I need to read it again, I can't remember it well enough, but I hope the little hintings at Bush wanting to enforce these Dominionists' ideals is only a bunch of liberal hype.

retzam said:

Christian Evangelism and Zionism are strikingly similiar because they both support the United States giving 4 billion a year to Israel! Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! You are a foolish liberal dolt!!! Hahahahahahhahahaha!!!!!!!!

retzam said:

Actually, I've been running the whole sha-bang for about twenty years now.

Mini Van Merle said:

I don't really consider myself liberal. I don't like the liberal and conservative labels; they just spawn arguments about the labels themselves rather than any specific issues. And I don't think what you said really says anything about my initial statement. Using the same logic you could say that Democracy and Communism are strikingly similar because they both support (in ideal conditions) essentially equal rights for everyone. I don't think the fact that Christian Evangelism and Zionism happen to both support giving money to Israel changes the fact that George W is clearly Christian, not Jewish, and therefore much more attached to Christian ideals. In addition, I don't understand you're righteous hostility against me. I didn't insult you in any way.

[IMG]retzam said:





Nice try Retzam!!!

Mini Van Merle said:


He's not Jewish... I've seen that picture before. He's Catholic. I can't believe you're seriously arguing that point.

http://www.buttafly.com/bush/index.php

Zionism does not = Judaism

In fact, I would imagine many of America's reform and secular Jews are not as supportive of Zionism as many of the Evangelical Christians are. The Evangelicals after all take quite literally the book which declares the Jews as chosen people and Israel as their chosen land. The idea that there is a large Jewish conspiracy our government is certainly absurd, but you could make the argument that the US's steadfast support for Israel over the displaced/dehumanized Palestinians is a result, in part, of Christian Zionism.

Also Bush is not Catholic; I forget off hand what Protestant sect he is a part of, but American Catholics are generally much more "liberal" than people belonging to the Evangelical Protestant denominations.

I think that makes more sense than anything said in this thread by anyone so far.

You're completely right. He's a methodist. My mistake.

Not to mention the underlying tensions between Mizrahim and Ashkenazim Jews in Israel itself. It's not one monolithic Zionist mass.

Just finished the Rolling Stone article... The mainsteam media needs to be giving more coverage to this scourge and moderate Republicans need to be pressured to break with these fascists.

BestialOnslaught said:

I agree with most of this.......... Why is the jewish conspiracy theory absurd? They own 90 percent of the mass media in this country. They played a huge role in communism and they have a book called The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion which makes clear its intent on dominating societies.
I am certainly not saying every jewish person is involved in a world wide plan for domination. I am saying there are plenty of Jewish people that bind together and have this mentality. Why have jews been kicked out of every country they have set foot in?

The problem isn't a Zionist conspiracy, the problem is the fact that there is an oligarchy running the world. Leftists and the anti-ZOG folk are against the same evil, just under different names. It comes down to not wanting an overseer's hand meddling with your individual rights and fate.

Well, I'd say Zionism is part of the problem along with democracy, christianity, egalitarianism, over population, capitalism. You know, all the retarded belief systems that make the USA so great!

Mini Van Merle said:

Yeah, over population is the worst of the belief systems...

retzam said:

You could say corporations believe in overpopulation or you could say overpopulation is a problem due to a certain system of beliefs.... Anyway ya slice it, you still dance around issues posing behind pseudo intellectuality........ Don't worry Retzam, only the smart folks know your a fucking retard.

Dude, I'm not trying to pretend I'm an intellectual here. I'll admit it right now: I am not an intellectual and I don't think incredibly highly of my own intelligence. I'm not an elistist: I'm not arguing your anti-semetic views or anything, whatever, to each his own. My first response to this post wasn't even meant to be a hostile comment, but clearly it was taken as one, as you decided to respond with one yourself (I'm assuming you wouldn't jump into hostility without being provoked?). Then, the argument began and I mentioned in one of my posts that George W. Bush is clearly Christian, not Jewish, to which you replied with a picture of him wearing a yamacha (I'm 99% sure I'm spelling that wrong). Well, no question about it, he is Christian (and I was wrong when I said he is Catholic). Now we appear to be arguing about whether or not overpopulation is a belief system? It certainly isn't man. I don't see the point in continuing any of our arguments. Why don't you just believe in your conspiracy theory and I won't? If you expect to come to this board (which is a music forum by the way) and gather a herd of conspiracy sheep by preaching a bunch of what is most likely nonsense, then you've got it all wrong.

Ok.........

1. Anti semetic? Is anyone that questions Jewish (Zionism) racism and corruption anti semetic?

2. George Bush is a christian. He is a ZIONIST christian and the title of this thread is ZIONIST government? . I wonder why this coincides?

3.Overpopulation is a problem in this country because of what? A BELIEF SYSTEM!!!! Retzam, poor confused Retzam... Just kill yourself, I'm sure Jesus has a place for you in heaven.

4. YOUR accusations of a conspiracy theory........ Well go study the history of the world and then we'll talk. Also check out who runs, Hollywood, television, newspaper, radio and the rest of the mass media in this country. For some odd reason 90 percent are jewish? For some odd reason they started communism and under Stalin's rule killed 40 million people? For some odd reason the USA gives Israel billions every year and what do we get in return? For some odd reason they have a book called The Learned Protocols of the Elders of Zion which explains their goal of dominating societies? Odd huh?

Mini Van Merle said:

1)Direct Quote: "Denounce Semitism, all the religions it
encompasses, and all the war, death, destruction, & despair these
religions have caused throughout the past 2000 years.

Descendants of Shem are the scourge of the Earth. They should pay.

*Sem·i·tism
*(sm-tzm)
/n./

1. A Semitic word or idiom.
2. Semitic traits, attributes, or customs.
3. A policy or predisposition in favor of Jews."

2) Frankly, I think you're just jumping on the Zionist Christian bandwagon because BestialOnslaught mentioned it. Before his post, you hadn't even mentioned any religion but Judaism, except when responding to my post involving Christian Evangelists.

3)Direct Quote: "Well, I'd say Zionism is part of the problem along with democracy, christianity, egalitarianism, over population, capitalism. You know, all the retarded belief systems that make the USA so great!"

You directly referred to over population as a retarded belief system, you didn't say it was caused by a belief system.

4) Communism in Russia decades ago has little to do with any conspiracy theory of yours that deals with the US government of right now. Oh, and, what you have there is definitely a conspiracy theory. The same dictionary that supplied your definition of Semitism there can supply us with this little number:

conspiracy theory
n.

A theory seeking to explain a disputed case or matter as a plot by a secret group or alliance rather than an individual or isolated act.

I think that your "theory seeking to explain" the mass amounts of Jews in the media, their apparent exception to justice, the money Israel receives from the US, etc. "as a plot by" Zionists in our government "rather than an individual or isolated act" fits right into the template of that definition.

Furthermore, with a little research you will find that it is widely accepted around the world due to immense amounts of evidence that The Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of Zion is a fake document; a piece of propaganda first introduced in a Russian newspaper in 1903. Actually, a good deal of it is blatantly ripped off from fictional works of people like Eugene Sue and Alexander Dumas.

Hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!
Here comes Retzam dancing around the issue again.

1. I'm not the one that wrote this essay. I posted it as a point of reference. I think it has some good points.

2. Before Bestial even posted on this thread I had a post: "Christian Evangelism and Zionism are strikingly similiar because they both support the United States giving 4 billion a year to Israel! Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! You are a foolish liberal dolt!!! Hahahahahahhahahaha!!!!!!!!" Go check it out......... I am totally aware of Christianity's role in Zionism. That's why I posted this way before Bestial.

3. Here you go again dancing around the issue. I could argue that certain greedy capitalists believe in over population because it makes them rich. Either way, it's a problem that is a result of belief systems. Whether the context of the statement was wrong or right it was the thought that counts!!! Hehe........

4. Zionism is not a theory. It is a reality........... You don't have to take my word for it either. There are plenty of jewish people that will testify to that.........

I think Retzam is jewish.........

I'll say this again, the difference between Waco and that Cali jew injury thing was that the government did Waco, while there was a civilian who attacked the jews in Cali.

Only Ubermensch can save us now.

Mini Van Merle said:


1) I was well aware that you didn't write the essay, but I assumed it was the basis of your argument as you created a thread so you could post it and add to the ever-growing pile of political bullshit that riddles this site. My mistake.

2)"Before his post, you hadn't even mentioned any religion but Judaism, except when responding to my post involving Christian Evangelists."

MY post involving Christian Evangelists. You were responding to ME about what I posted the only time you mentioned Christianity. You didn't introduce the topic.

3) What makes you think that it's the thought that counts? If you can't convey what your actually trying to say, don't expect people to take you seriously when you change a statement's meaning after you have already typed it. I'm never argued that overpopulation isn't caused by a belief system, just that it isn't one, because that's what the initial statement says.

4) Zionism is not a theory, you're right. Nor did I ever say it was. I'm saying Zionist curruption in the US government is a theory, which it is. I'm not dancing around any issue here: I have based my responses off the things YOU say. The closest I came to saying Zionism doesn't exist is when I told you that The Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of Zion is a plagiarized piece of propaganda, which does NOT say Zionism doesn't exist, it just says that book is fake, that's all. So If I'm dancing around the issue so much, then what is the issue? Is it Zionist curruption in the US government, or is it the existence of Zionism? If it is the latter then there is no issue at all.

anonymous said:

I'm not actually, I'm agnostic. Good assumption though anonymous!

I must be an Agnostic Zionist though, cause like, those dudes totally exist, and, like, they are wicked filled with curruption and shit.

oi vey!

1. Retzam, no sir it was just a refernece point.

2. Whether I issued a statement before or after you I was well aware of this no matter how many times you say I was not.

3. Your whining now!!! Clinging to anything to stay afloat...

4. Bitch and moan all you want.... The government has Zionist ties and you know what that is? Racism!!!!!!!!

stop blaming everyone else for your failures in life!
reach down like you've got a pair and get your shit together!
life is just to short...

apocalyptic hammer said:

haha..........You'd like to think so.

what's that supposed to mean?

Well, clearly your making an assumption being that you do not even know me.

Mini Van Merle said:

in the dungeon?

Mini Van Merle said:

did you know that theres a man goin round takin names?

In the dungeon?

yeah,you know,THE DUNGEON!

I wish I did? Care to elaborate?

i'm waiting for my surprise!

oK............ what surprise might that be?

By the way, is there a point to your cryptic arguement? If you disagree with me why don't you back it up?

Mini Van Merle said:

piss off wanker!

The US is not a Zionist Occupied Government for a number of reasons. Bush is christian, and most of our nations leaders are. Secondly, we have freedom of religion. Thirdly, our support of Israel has to do with the fact that Israel is a democracy in the middle east. It is not because our leaders believe jews are the chosen ones and God wants them to be in Israel.

Your example of the treatment of victims seems really reaching to me. You are forming a story from two completely unconnected events. Was justice served? Doesnt sound like it. Was it due to Talamudic Law? That just doesn't seem likely.

JEWS ARE NIGGERS!!!