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returntothepit >> discuss >> I disagree with anyone who does not like "Now, Diabolical" by Satyricon. by Hoser on Jul 21,2009 7:25pm
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toggletoggle post by Hoser at Jul 21,2009 7:25pm
I think that this album really is kind of ground breaking. It's not your typical black metal at all. It's nothing like old Satyricon, but nonetheless it's great.

It really reminds me of bands like Danzig. The music is fairly simple, extremely dark, and catchy as hell. Not at all black metallish. I dig the grooves, mixed with some very European guitar riff structure.

I dunno guys, I dun dern respect yall's opinions, but I'm really digging this album lately. I hated it at first, but man...it really started to grow on me.


bennyhillifier



toggletoggle post by quintessence  at Jul 21,2009 7:31pm
Satyr is a total fag.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Jul 21,2009 9:38pm
Nah, he's rad.



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Jul 21,2009 9:46pm
Can't say the same for Frost. Dude probably rails ill tang but he looks like a goddamn twink.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Jul 21,2009 10:17pm
WUT?



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Jul 22,2009 11:18am
I detest old Statyricon, but a Danzig-cum-Coroner approach might do 'em good. Will download

AND RAPE



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jul 22,2009 11:24am
If you actually sit and think about what exactly happened to Satyricon, one will realize that he wanted to sound like Thorns. Thorns s/t is what Satyr wished he sounded like. Definitely his biggest influence in writing music post-Nemesis. The new stuff is like watered down Thorns so he can appeal to a "wide" fan base.

The sole reason why I do not like any new Satyricon (other than a couple of tracks off of Rebel and Volcano) is because a.) Frost is wasting his talent by not utilizing it anymore
and b.) Satyr wants to sound like Thorns



toggletoggle post by C.deAd at Jul 22,2009 11:47am
This album is a huge, steaming pile of shit. It sounds as if one were to listen to later AC/DC with semen clogging their ears.

Gorefest and Jungle Rot make better music.



toggletoggle post by MikeOv at Jul 22,2009 11:50am
SatyriKoRn



toggletoggle post by alexc  at Jul 22,2009 12:47pm
then disagree with me. this album is shitty pop at best.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Jul 22,2009 12:47pm
i disagree with anyone named "hoser"



toggletoggle post by sli sli sli at Jul 22,2009 2:39pm
they werent all that diabolical before,
but now...



toggletoggle post by Lancelot at Jul 22,2009 2:51pm
I usually disagree with fat rednecks



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Jul 22,2009 3:35pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
If you actually sit and think about what exactly happened to Satyricon, one will realize that he wanted to sound like Thorns.


Good point. After his initial course of ripping off Immortal and Gorgoroth, that is!



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jul 22,2009 3:42pm
Wasn't Satyr the young dude that used to hang out and buy Euronymous' CDs? How's that story go now?



toggletoggle post by MikeOv at Jul 22,2009 3:43pm
Storm is even better than Satyricon.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jul 22,2009 3:46pm
I must say though, Satyr is a pretty chill guy. At least he was when I was talking to him back when Trym was touring with them. Trym on the other hand...



toggletoggle post by MetalThursday  at Jul 22,2009 7:47pm
I remember Trym being kind of a douche. My old band Acephalus opened for Morbid Angel, Exhumed & Zyklon at the Palladium back in 2001 and the show was a day or two after Soilent Green dropped off the tour when they were in a major van accident. The non-headlining bands on the tour had been using SG's drumkit so our drummer offered for them all to use his kit. Exhumed was totally cool and thanked us onstage and everything, but all Trym did was bitch and whine about how old the drum heads were, how the toms were out of tune, etc... and he wouldn't allow the trigger brain to be turned on for our set, even though the kit was already triggered up and miked. I guess he would have been happier playing NO kit instead?



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jul 22,2009 7:50pm
Definitely man. Trym totally came off as a douche that thought he was in the Matrix



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Jul 22,2009 8:39pm
Lancelot said[orig][quote]
I usually disagree with fat rednecks


I didn't know that I was fat. Are you sure that you're talking about Hoser?



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Jul 22,2009 8:50pm
It's funny that you all have the near same opinion of this. I was talking to a good friend (JWW of Agalloch) about this post today and told him of the opinions that I have read and he simply replied, "Fuck it, who cares what they think?" He toured with Satyricon on this last Euro stint and mentioned that Satyr was a really cool dude and that he dug the shit out of "Now, Diabolical." He's actually the one who turned me on to it, as I hated old Satyricon (which he bitches at me about constantly); he loves it all. Anyhow, it's just interesting to hear what other people have to say. I love the album.

And Lancelot (anonymous pussy), call me what you will...but remember that I'm not the one who throws insults under an anonymous alias...if that tells you anything about yourself. Grow a set of nuts, and sling shit later. If you're not willing to stand behind your words in person, then your words are insincere at best.



toggletoggle post by Pussy Eater at Jul 22,2009 8:55pm
Aside from eating pussy all day, I would say the same of JWW's band. Hasn't been good since the beginning. Bunch of sellout faggots.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Jul 22,2009 8:57pm
BBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....


WUT?



toggletoggle post by Pussy Eater at Jul 22,2009 9:00pm
You fuckin heard it right. How about you ask JWW why they NEVER EDITED the metronome out of some parts on PALE FOLKLORE? HUH? WHY DONT YOU ASK HIM THAT



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Jul 22,2009 9:01pm
Because he's a useless pussy and won't have an excuse....

There is no metronome...it's called a "click track" you retard.

You're obviously not a musician.



toggletoggle post by Pussy Eater at Jul 22,2009 9:05pm
Fuck you buddy. We're both huge BUSH SUPPORTERS but there is a metronome. AND I QUOTE
"A click track is a series of audio cues used to synchronize sound recordings, often to a moving image. It can be thought of as a recording of a metronome in that it serves a similar purpose."

See if you can find it. It fucking fades out very quickly, right at the end of an acoustic part.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Jul 22,2009 9:38pm
Dude...I've heard it on a hundred albums at least. All of the albums with the exception of one were recorded digitally....which means...BAM, you got it, click track.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Jul 22,2009 9:39pm
and there are NO visuals on any click track that I have ever used, or seen used.



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Jul 22,2009 11:40pm
My clicktrack is 3D like a mischievous ferret.



toggletoggle post by casualobserver at Jul 23,2009 11:30am
Majur lulz @ rttp's biggest shit talker scolding another shit talker.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jul 23,2009 11:40am
on a side note, I listened to Thorns s/t album again last night and I must say, DAMN he was influenced by it. It is of no surprise that he writes riffs with him now.
Personaly, I wish satyricon sounded more like Thorns and Tartaros if you ask me



toggletoggle post by darkwornli at Jul 23,2009 11:43am
casualobserver said[orig][quote]
Majur lulz @ rttp's biggest shit talker scolding another shit talker.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jul 23,2009 11:45am
and about agalloch - sorry Hoser, I think I may have to agree with that troll. I like all albums by them, but I think Pale Folklore is their most powerful and atmospheric release.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jul 23,2009 12:50pm
dude, this album is fucking garbage. this is basically the sickest, lamest attempt at making "black metal" accessible. its pretty much pop. Volcano is ok, it has its moments, but even that showed signs of impending failure. Now, Diabolical represents the total collapse into failure. if Agalloch told you that the new Emmure was black metal, 10 minutes later there would be a "Emmure is the most beautiful black metal ever" thread.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jul 23,2009 1:05pm
i agree with Jim, they should have just become a clone of Thorns, that would at least be entertaining. i love old Satyricon, but Satyr always seemed to be the guy jumping up and down in the midst of the 90's black metal movement saying "LOOK GUYS, I CAN MAKE BLACK METAL TOOOO!!!"



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Jul 23,2009 4:03pm
Hoser said[orig][quote]
It really reminds me of bands like Danzig. The music is fairly simple, extremely dark, and catchy as hell. Not at all black metallish. I dig the grooves, mixed with some very European guitar riff structure.


Downloaded it; reminds me of later Samael or something I cannot place at this minute. Drums are very disco.



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Jul 23,2009 4:04pm
PRONG



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Jul 23,2009 5:45pm
... and if you're a fellow patron of Metal Inquisition, Satyr could arguably be the Euro vanguard of Tommy Victor Disease.



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Jul 23,2009 5:47pm
goatcatalyst said[orig][quote]
... and if you're a fellow patron of Metal Inquisition, Satyr could arguably be the Euro vanguard of Tommy Victor Disease.


I dunno, I like Prong, but only every other album.

Beg to Differ - A+
Prove You Wrong - D-/HIV+
Cleansing - B+
Power of the Damager - C+

There were some other fuckin' albums in there that I forgot, man.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Jul 23,2009 7:19pm
Yeti said[orig][quote]
dude, this album is fucking garbage. this is basically the sickest, lamest attempt at making "black metal" accessible. its pretty much pop. Volcano is ok, it has its moments, but even that showed signs of impending failure. Now, Diabolical represents the total collapse into failure. if Agalloch told you that the new Emmure was black metal, 10 minutes later there would be a "Emmure is the most beautiful black metal ever" thread.


That's not true at all Yeti...you negative nancy. I will say that JWW has a much more educated opinion on any music over the likes of you, as it is his life after all. He DOES happen to write for a shitload of magazines, and does nothing but review music all day for a living. I dunno...ummm...wait what do you do again? With that said, there was no reason for you to be a rude little dicked prick. I wasn't rude at all. I also think that obviously Satyr is doing something right, as I don't see you anywhere of recognition aside from being an internet troll. At least you log in to be a whiny pussy, which is more than others can say.



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Jul 24,2009 12:37am
Hoser said[orig][quote]
an internet troll


An honorable profession! Oh wait...



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jul 24,2009 12:41am
Conservationist said[orig][quote]

An honorable profession! Oh wait...


A thread isn't complete without this infamous picture:




toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jul 24,2009 7:18am
Hoser said[orig][quote]
Yeti said[orig][quote]
dude, this album is fucking garbage. this is basically the sickest, lamest attempt at making "black metal" accessible. its pretty much pop. Volcano is ok, it has its moments, but even that showed signs of impending failure. Now, Diabolical represents the total collapse into failure. if Agalloch told you that the new Emmure was black metal, 10 minutes later there would be a "Emmure is the most beautiful black metal ever" thread.


That's not true at all Yeti...you negative nancy. I will say that JWW has a much more educated opinion on any music over the likes of you, as it is his life after all. He DOES happen to write for a shitload of magazines, and does nothing but review music all day for a living. I dunno...ummm...wait what do you do again? With that said, there was no reason for you to be a rude little dicked prick. I wasn't rude at all. I also think that obviously Satyr is doing something right, as I don't see you anywhere of recognition aside from being an internet troll. At least you log in to be a whiny pussy, which is more than others can say.


so let me get this straight, because this guy reviews music for a "living", that makes his opinion mean more than mine? that is one of the stupidest things i have ever heard. you really stuffed your head further up your ass on this one, me expressing my opinion is absolutely no different than you expressing yours, except apparently in this case because its you, and your opinion matches your boyfriends, i am somehow a whiny pussy. nice Republican logic, dumbass.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jul 24,2009 9:43am
opinions are always subjective, no matter how educated someone is on the matter.
that's like saying if a chef hates chocolate cake, but you like it, their opinion matters more because they are a chef. horrible analogy but you should get my drift.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jul 24,2009 9:48am
god damn it. i just had to go downstairs and by some snack cakes for breakfast. fucking pricks



toggletoggle post by MikeOv at Jul 24,2009 9:48am
Conservationist said[orig][quote]


I dunno, I like Prong, but only every other album.

Beg to Differ - A+

There were some other fuckin' albums in there that I forgot, man.


Influential album is underrated.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Oct 9,2009 10:49am
i'm going to bump this to further express how horribly atrocious this album is. "A New Enemy" is on Pandora right now and its making me gag. i've exceeded my limit on skipping songs. argh.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Oct 9,2009 11:06am
I like The Age of Nero. It rocks like newer Darkthrone, yeah it's not as good and doesn't have the same attitude, but you know..it's a solid rock album.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 9,2009 11:09am
I just wish Frost utilized his skills for this band again.



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Oct 9,2009 11:13am
ITT: Hoser knows people



toggletoggle post by thetruthaboutmuffdivers at Oct 9,2009 11:18am
I'd rather listen to Type O Negative than this foul garbage.



toggletoggle post by trioxin245  at Oct 9,2009 12:53pm
id rather listen to rampant decay with fran drescher on vocals doing accoustic limp bizkit covers for the rest of my life than have to hear another 1/4 of a second off of this horrendous abomination of a satyricon album



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Oct 9,2009 1:02pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
I just wish Frost utilized his skills for this band again.


MOAR SHADOWTHRONE!!



toggletoggle post by barbeloh at Oct 9,2009 3:18pm
pistols at dawn. this album blows!

Shadowthrone and Rebel Extravaganza FTW!



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Oct 9,2009 3:20pm
i was listening to Rebel the other day, so good. Supersonic Journey is the best song.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Oct 9,2009 4:05pm
MikeOv said[orig][quote]
SatyriKoRn


haha just noticed this



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Oct 9,2009 4:10pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Conservationist said[orig][quote]

An honorable profession! Oh wait...


A thread isn't complete without this infamous picture:



lol fmp



toggletoggle post by thetruthaboutmuffdivers at Oct 9,2009 4:29pm
trioxin245 said[orig][quote]
id rather listen to rampant decay with fran drescher on vocals doing accoustic limp bizkit covers for the rest of my life than have to hear another 1/4 of a second off of this horrendous abomination of a satyricon album


OK this first, then Type O Negative, then SatyriKoRn.



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