For those of you who enjoy paranormal stuff:
If you are interested in exploring the unknown wilderness of the Hockomock swamp and/or Bridgewater Triangle youshould respond in here.

For those of you who don't know, that area has had a number of unexplained happenings/sightings/encounters over the past couple hundred years.

There's been bigfoot sightings, a large amount of UFO sightings, orbs, etc. You name it, people have reported it.

Hockomock means "place where spirits dwell" in the native tongue, as they feared what lay in the swamp. The settlers called it "the devil's swamp." During King Phillips War, the natives also fooled a small colonial army into going into the swamp, where they all perished. It also as a shitload of Indian Burial Grounds.

This place ain't no joke. I've been in there one or two times before, and there's fucking quicksand. Sadly, if you really want to explore it, you'd have to have some serious equipment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridgewater_Triangle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hockomock_Swamp

Good Day Sirs

i was just there last week..found some new ways in...fuckin creepy..im always down!

always wanted to check this site out.

new ways in? damn, I haven't been there in 5 years and I had to sneak through a construction site. it was near the rayham dog track. where are the other entrances?

Hell yeah i would check this shit out...

Long lost to where no pathway goes.

Fuck yeah, I grew up around there.

http://www.paranormal-encyclopedia.com/b/bridgewater-triangle/

"Also the site of an 8,000-year-old Native American burial ground, when archaeologists opened the graves of Grassy Island, the red ochre within the tombs bubbled and then mysteriously disappeared. Photographs taken of the excavation would not develop."

Damn

I've also read articles about "satanic cults" in Freetown State Forest. Supposedly when the cops were investigating a murder in the '70s they found all these tunnels with occult trinkets and a decomposing cow carcass that showed signs of ritual sacrifice. Dude.

I've heard about those "cults" too. Someone tried telling me they saw white-robed people in the middle of the woods butchering something, but I didn't believe her.

I must say however, I was in Taunton at an abandoned mental asylum, and on the ground there was a pentagram made in fresh blood. Pretty sweet album cover if you ask me.

Can't wait to go down there this weekend.

They'll be accompanying me.

I don't know how true any of the Bridgewater Triangle-related stories are, but that whole area does have a real eerie feeling to it.

Sounds interesting, but for a bunch of people who don't believe in god such as I, you seem to believe this hocus pocus crap. I would still go out there on a bunch of opiates though and make up my own spooky shit in my head.

the other way in is off a dead end road...you turn right before the mobil before the over pass...and of 138 you can walk in by the high tention lines..and another way in is by my old high school on foundry st..and by the nip off 104..im there all the time

I'm a UFO dude, that's my main reason.

Gotta think of stuff to bring:
Compass
Flashlight
Bug Spray
Beer
Spy Ear (As Seen on TV)
Knife
Rope?

What else?

Gun
Granola (hey, might get hungry)
Lighter

My newphews were crazy about checking this place out last winter. So we packed some backpacks, headed out and didn't see shit.

It was more of a "paranormal experience" doing donuts and ghost riding the whip on ice in an office park after the hike.

The "real" part of the swamp is inaccessible by foot. You really need one of those swampboat things.

The paths generally don't go that far into the place.

add inflatable raft to the list of requirements

need one with a giant fan on the back. when you're in Miami, pick one up (along with some nice broads, too)

The latter, check. The former, no.

oh and I lied, I'm really just going to Disney World, tee hee

I will take a hovercraft full of haunchy Latinas and beer right into that faggot swamp

Make sure you go to Epcot, then make sure to go on the Norway ride. The trolls'll get you every time.

haha I did go on the maelstrom ride when i was a kid. but no, im not hitting up parks, just cubanville and hopefully the everglades

I'd be into this, but the gators would detect my ability to menstruate and kill us all.

There's gators right?

by the barrel full

Enjoy the everglades. It's a shame how we've abuse the shit out of that ecosystem.

I've heard of some of these stories. No huge surprise that there's a mental hospital for the criminally insane in that area too.

i know, it's diminishing i heard

Last summer a few buddies of mine went down to the Hockomock area. Dighton Triangle and one of em got stuck in waist deep mud. Unfortunately they found nothing unusual

Are any of you guys into Dudley Road in Billerica? I went there last summer at dusk and one of my buds told me to not say anything that would sound evil or negative cuz he feared bad juju

So I kept saying Kali Ma, Kali ma to piss him off

I beat the living shit out of the ecosystem everyday!

haha.

i'll bring my video camera just in case if I encounter anything strange

i've never been, but i knew a few guys who used to regularly go there and they said it was just a really creepy stretch of road. the stories about the escaped inmates murdering nuns is bullshit, but the road is very strange. i definitely want to go there.

Jim, when are you going to the swamp? it might be tough for me to get down there, but let me know when you are going and i'll gladly join you. stories are just stories, i want to see it face to face. if i get slaughtered by Native American ghosts, well so be it.

This weekend

ah fuck, too soon. i was hoping to make a trip in September sometime, i'll see what i can work out and keep you informed. i want to go with people who are serious, and aren't afraid to confront anything.

Still not 100% if it's going to be this weekend. But it's going to be more than once hopefully. It's time we put these "rumors" to rest.

that's exactly what i'm interested in too. if they aren't rumors, i want firsthand proof. i don't care about proving it to the world, i don't even care about catching it on film or anything, i just want to see it and know it.

honestly though, like I said. you'd need actualy equipment to thoroughly search a swamp. And who the fuck wants to walk through a swamp at 3am?
Leeches, quicksand, mud, bugs, etc. Gotta be prepared

flame spurts, lightning sand, R.O.U.S.'s...

If you wanna do this again in a few weeks, I'd be down with enslaving some natives and making them guide us ala Cannibal Holocaust.

I'm going to bring a dead animal with me to bury in one of the numerous indian burial grounds.

why are there always rumors of "curses" at indian burial grounds? never understood that.
almost the same kind of feeling towards egyptian tombs.

Because the Indians worshipped grotesque, laughing gods. Not benevolent, light-bearing deities.

I suppose people on this board hate the natives?
I've always grown to respect them (NOT the current ones that drink and gamble) due to the fact that they lived off the land, were relatively peaceful and we're, in my eyes, "pagan" as opposed to westerners that came over.

Natives > Western expansionism

trail of tears = LOL?

never underestimate the public's willingness to blame the red man for anything.

manifest destiny = lol?

I must say though, that because I live in middleboro (proposed area for the casino) the Wampanoags that I've seen are CAPE VERDIAN.

so they're not even indigenous to this land?

I wish I had an Indian burial ground to bury my ferrets in :(

And for the record - I'm only hostile towards Native Americans when I leave the casino down $100+ and I don't feel I was comped enough drinks. Otherwise, I celebrate their proud culture.

Not all. My husband and son are wamp.

It's because somewhere down the line, their Cape Verdean relatives bred with the Wampanoags of Mashpee. The result? Not much different looking than your avereage Cape Verdean.
There was this one dude on the train wearing a Wampanoag Nation shirt last week and he was black with a fro. lol

Yea, not all. But a large amount of them are.

I can show you pics from their socials and pow-wow, they go from blonde/white to blackest black. There are also wamps that are half wamp, half Bermudan (is that a word?):



That's one, they call em "Goombas" when they're dancing.

All my cousins are blends of Wamp and Portuguese. They look pretty injun:

Click the fail pictures, too lazy to fix.

Yes they are.

Are there any pure bred wamps left?

The only time I really felt that the natives were still true to their roots, was when I was in Arizona in a Navajo Reservation. Most of them are extremely racist towards the "white man," but they still have their own identity. Not mocking the Wamps, not too familiar with how they run their stuff. But down in the southwest, the reservations are HUGE - bigger than Massachusetts and most of NE.
Up in North Dakota, if you're white and walking near the reservations up there, you better be prepared for a beatdown.

I know Wampanoags are, I had just needed clarification because I thought he was saying straight up Cape Verdeans were trying to pass themselves off as such.

Not that I know of. You have to factor in that the Wamps were the first tribe to experience the white invasion so they had a jump-start on mixing blood. They were also the first to really try the whole integration bullshit when colonists were putting them in Euro clothes and teaching them English. The tribes out West not so much.

The Wamps were also a mostly "peaceful" tribe whereas the Western tribes were pretty fucking insane. I imagine they held the shit out of their ground.

Some of the Wamps are stupid racist like that, but the majority I've met are very cool. A friend that grew up in Mashpee said she used to get rocks chucked at her by the wamp teenagers for going to the local pond so there's pricks in the bunch no doubt.

My family especially are really involved and shit. I've got one cousin that can slay a deer, tan it's hide, make sinew string and bead you a chest piece with it. She's awesome, she works are Plymoth Plantation with the above pictured dudes.

I thought you meant mixed Cape Verds/Wamps.

They probably got away with that shit before, but since the Wamps FINALLY got federally recognized they've clamped down on the tribal roll requirements. It's REALLY difficult to prove your heritage because natives weren't people and have little paper trail in that respect so it'd be pretty difficult to be a tribe member if you aren't or just had one distant relative fuck one.

I've got a little Micmac in me - one of my French Canadian fur-trapping relatives screwed one I guess. awesome

According to Stephen King, Micmac indian burial grounds are no joke.

Me too! 5 generations back from family word of mouth...I'm trying to track it down.

Micmacs were pretty crazy from what I've read. My daughter has Narragansett...who were also murderous crazy people I believe.

Bump for ritual sacrifice to the old gods.

This proposal still stands. I've been hiking a lot this summer; I'm looking to venture in here again because of the atmosphere. Not during the day though.

Let's go people, 3 threads of talking and no one going!

There is no such thing as the Bridgewater Triangle.

find out for yourself or you're a pussy

Bump. Spring is nearing and it's the perfect to time to check it out

i wanna go!

I need to go here again soon and venture deeper.

only King Philip is real.

i gots a little abenaki

god dammit, I'm starting a Hockomock/Bridgewater Triangle themed black metal band. It's about time.

i will do this.

Also, DIGHTON ROCK lies within the triangle. Last summer I went there and it was nice and peaceful.

Mysterious markings on a very old rock? You better believe it.

aril, i told you about when i went there right?

didn't venture too far in...heard "sheething" sounds coming from inside the swamp along with very strange noises...i wanted to go further in but my friend who was driving was being a bitch and wanted to go home cause he didnt want to get his shoes went or something gay like that.

was it burnsy? hahaha, I kheed I kheed.

what is a sheething sound?

no it wasnt burnsy but i remember telling him about this and trying to convince him to go.

like sheathing of a blade.

interesting.
i've seen "investigative" webpages talk about the hockomock. they usually go there during the day (most "paranormal" stuff occurs very late at night and very early in the morning) and brush it off as another swamp.
that it may be, but there is something different about this place. It's hard to explain, but I could feel something there. I can understand why the natives admired it like they did.
perhaps there is a nexus point somewhere in the swamp? maybe an undocumented ley line or some sort? regardless, there is energy there, both negative and positive. it'd be a great place to meditate and/or take hallucinogens.

im trying to get Notshaver to go, we had talked about it in the past.

would like to try and get to the middle and bring some sort of videotaping device....

if i saw the ghost dog or the giant bird my life would be complete.

i must say though, not sure how it is during late winter/early spring.. but in the summer time there's quicksand everywhere. I had my whole leg get stuck in a puddle of quicksand or, rather quickmud. It was pretty fucked up and surprised the hell out of me when it happened.

lulz. It appears that my neighborhood lies within the vertex of the eponymous Bridgewater triangle.

yeah i went about this time last year...it was quite muddy.

lol, I just did a google image search for "hockmock swamp" and the dighton rock image links back to this thread. SKYNET...cool story bro

anyway, a hockmock adventure will happen real soon, for those who care.

http://ufos.about.com/od/ufos2012mar/a/Man...Encounter-Ufos-In-Massachusetts.htm

Thought I saw something a few weeks ago.

sure it wasn't just some balrog?

This weekend.

Who's in?

I'm down.

This weekend = our show

Also, I dunno where ya'll been at but some funky shit going down

Elaborate.

We need to hit up Freetown-Fall River State Forest as well. Maybe we'll stumble upon satanic cult activities.

I hope we do, and I hope they kill us.

spider gates is where the satanists hang out

I've hiked Freetown probably 6 times this summer. It's a maze in there but nothing extraordinary.

There's been military helicopter sightings all over the area, including near my parents house at 2AM..shit was just hovering there for 10 minutes. I personally believe there is some sort of underground base near the hockomock. Sounds far-fetched but there's quite a lot of abandoned ones in MA.

Make a mashed-potato replica of the area about it, faggot.

wat

shoes will get it.

you sure it was military? isn't hanscom AFB out near there?

Yes, black helicopter.. There's no reason for a civilian helicopter to be hovering in a residential neighborhood at that time, low enough to make the trees sway. No, Hanscom is a good 50 miles north of here.
There is Otis AFB on the Cape but that isn't used in full-service, as it's an Air National Guard base now.
The Hockomock is no joke, but like I said above, it'd impossoble to explore it without swamp vehicles. It is a dense jungle of swampland. Not the safest place to go. The trails don't penetrate the good parts.

How deep are the swamps? Could an atv get through?

On the trails, yea (youd probably get arrested). Swamps, no.

Just curious, Atvs can get through a decent amount of mud but if it is deep swamp area forget it.

MikeOv and I were talking about exploring in October/November because the ground should be frozen by then and won't have to deal with swamp.

I've been outside the perimeter and heard sheathing of a blade, it was weird...Can't wait to go back. Jim you should come with us.

I'll go!

Heh. The Hockomock doesnt freeze. Good luck.
Quicksand gonna kill you.

You guys may like rutland state park. It has the remains of an old prison camp. Plus it really nice in there during the summer/fall. The only downfall is it has rather large snakes..lol This was taken a long time ago but you get the idea



Just figured I would throw it out there, don't mean to take from the original topic.

Rutland State Park = Old News

ok ok..:P

Teehee