It's due out next month, right?
Do you think it's going to leak soon or not at all?
I'm dying to hear something..
It's almost like the anticipation I had for new dissection..
Writing a premature review based off of 30 second snippets = LOL
There's no way you can get an accurate idea of how these songs are going to develop by listening to short samples with low sound quality. I'm not sure how I feel about the vocals yet, because it doesn't really sound like him. Musically, some of these samples reminded me of Aske.
I think too many people get worked up over how THEY want it to sound, rather than accepting the artists vision for what they've produced. Speaking generally, if you know how the new Burzum should sound and that's what you want to hear, then maybe you should write that album yourself (IMO).
There's no way you can get an accurate idea of how these songs are going to develop by listening to short samples with low sound quality.
True, but if the composition of the riffs lacks the same presence, we're looking at an entirely different animal from old Burzum.
Let me put it this way:
If Shakespeare released a comeback sonnet, and we got a sample line, and it was blockheaded, what's the chance the rest is NOT blockheaded, especially when we get 10 instances to check?
Personally, I don't think the samples sounded too bad. A point to be made: If you took the beginning of "Key to the Gate", which starts off as raw, speedy black metal, and converted it into a 30 second sample; people will automatically assume that the rest of the song is going to follow a similar pattern. Now, after that part ends, KttG sounds like a entirely different song. I'm trying not to jump the gun here, so I'll just wait until it's released before I can give a fair judgment.
That being said, track 3s clip was great sounding. I can't wait go hear the real production/cd. I probably won't like it as much as the old stuff, but I bet you it will land in my top 10 2010 releases. That is, unless the full songs are a disappointment.
post by Hungtableed at Feb 4,2010 10:11am
Def. is a drum machine. What are you pussies still doing listening to the clips? It took me longer to read this thread than it took me to find the shit on soulseek.
attn: people that are reading this thread but not posting.
Post link to DL and you'll be granted a seat in the golden halls of Valhalla, courtesy of Odin.
attn: people that are reading this thread but not posting.
Post link to DL and you'll be granted a seat in the golden halls of Valhalla, courtesy of Odin.
It's already been recorded though, so technically it's out and ready for listening. I'd be against downloading it if people weren't going to purchase the actual album, but I plan on doing both.
Def. is a drum machine. What are you pussies still doing listening to the clips? It took me longer to read this thread than it took me to find the shit on soulseek.
So do have the official album downloaded? If so, would you be willing to upload it to a file-hosting site?
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I'd be against downloading it if people weren't going to purchase the actual album, but I plan on doing both.
I agree. Although i don't buy it if i don't like the download. If i'm going to listen to it, i like to own the album. I even go so far as to buy merch online from bands i DL stuff from and like.
drum machine? i sense a disturbance in the black metal uncommunity.
post by arilliusbm at Feb 4,2010 3:10pm edited Feb 4,2010 3:11pm
I don't mind drum machines at all, depending on what it sounds like of course.
I don't even care if the guitars are real as long as th music is good. One of my favorite German bands Enid has midi guitars on an album but the melodies are sick.
Jangli Jaggas is another midi / tracked metal band that was awesome.
I heard them on mp3.com back when that site was the shit. I haven't heard much of their other stuff.
anyway, has this leaked yet?
Interest sure dropped on this one after the samples were released. I think it was ghostwritten by the burzum.org guys, who have had several goofy NSBM bands in a similar style.
post by gnot at Feb 5,2010 2:07pm
Interest sure dropped on this one after the samples were released...
keep telling yourself that. everyone already forgot about that shitty Beherit album you loved so much.
When dissection released the Maha Kali single/ep I was a little disappointed but still held a little hope. When reinkaos came out I found myself liking the ep more and not liking the album.
Judging by these samples I still hold interest in it, and hope it will be as good as the old stuff. Well see. No confimred leak yet, hungtableed made me waste hours last night looking on all irc networks, dcc+ servers, torrents etc.
Is that the guy who screams like a woman? I'd like to grab his scrawny neck when I'm going cross country with a freezer truck. That insulation really kills the screams.
Is that the guy who screams like a woman? I'd like to grab his scrawny neck when I'm going cross country with a freezer truck. That insulation really kills the screams.
Easy there cyber-warrior! Last man who threatened him ended up with a knife in his skull.
post by J.O. Buddy at Feb 11,2010 10:29am
Ain't no cyber warrior here, good buddy, just a friendly trucker. Speaking of friendly, you into J.O. at all?
post by arilliusbm at Feb 12,2010 1:25pm edited Feb 12,2010 1:26pm
Rumors are that this leaked but I can't find anything.
we were but you brought up that recording. hahaha. I guess you weren't around but on AIM
post by OMG!!11 at Feb 12,2010 6:48pm
I did not say that it leaked, I was commanding tah intardnet to leak the album. lol
post by jimbo at Feb 13,2010 8:23am
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There's not room for two jimbo's on this site buddy.
IMHO: so far it's mid paced, all the instruments sound excellent, i especially like the guitars and bass sound and the riffs are colorful, repetitive, melancholy. good mix of clean and harsh vocals. i sense a lot of Ukrainian stuff - great composition. drums are real. it's a little beyond typical. i don't speak Norwegian. i can't compare it to Engram, it's different.
Don't expect any experimentation or keys on this album. It's a straight forward black metal release. I never expected Hvis Lyset Tar Oss or Filosofem, so I can't say I'm disappointed. It's a weird album, but it definitely has cool riffs on it. Will definitely require more listens, especially in the proper state of mind.
3:19 to 4:29 in Kaimadalthas' nedstigning is classic Burzum. Glemselens Elv captures that transcendental atmosphere which I'm always seeking. Better than the previous albums? No. A worthwhile listen? I'd have to say yes.
post by fuckbeherit at Feb 19,2010 1:44pm
sounds good. better than all the other garbage coming out of Norgay.
3:19 to 4:29 in Kaimadalthas' nedstigning is classic Burzum. Glemselens Elv captures that transcendental atmosphere which I'm always seeking. Better than the previous albums? No. A worthwhile listen? I'd have to say yes.
potential album of the year?
post by fuckbeherit at Feb 19,2010 1:51pm
fuck you beelze. i've met you in real life, you're a total fucking tool and a complete loser.
Jim, I think it will make my top 10, that's for sure. Autechre's Oversteps has yet to leak, but that comes out around the same time as Belus. From the samples I've heard, I'm certainly anticipating its release. 2010 seems to be a good year for music, in general.
post by fuckbeherit at Feb 19,2010 1:57pm
yeah, with your faggy Axe you bought at the Silver Dragon? good luck.
so c'mon big psycho, tell us exactly why you're not in sign of the goat anymore? does it have anything to do with drinking too much and beating off???
i bet it does.
post by beelze at Feb 19,2010 2:06pm edited Feb 19,2010 2:08pm
good one, if I act psychotic, obviously I am psychotic you said it yourself you stupid fuck...let me know who you are so I can show you just how psychotic
post by beelze at Feb 19,2010 2:07pm edited Feb 19,2010 2:12pm
Yeah? What's up? I heard you gave up the plastic battle axe and might have gotten your girlfriend pregnant? The fuck happened to your satanic ideals, man? We aren't homeboy's in league with Lucifer no more. Stay away from me.
post by fuckbeherit at Feb 19,2010 2:12pm
get out of what? haha, i never said i was gonna participate in your internet tough guy bullshit.
critiquing the quality of trolling in this thread.
A recursive troll would result, causing an infinite loop and exploding the universe.
Do you want me to be responsible for THAT???!? I'd rather just club a few more baby seals and buy the wife some fur, maybe smoke a cigar and ash on the disenfranchised.
Whats up with that logo? That font is so over used. I mean it's not like BURZUM used a very original logo but why switch it up late in the game for a font that has been used 100000 times for metal bands?
I decided to put on Hvis Lyset Tar Oss and I suddenly found myself feeling very disappointed. Perhaps the greatest punishment Varg could receive was not incarceration, but the loss of his creativity.
I really liked your older work. It was a unique combination of grandiose atmosphere coupled with raw emotional waves - if you will - which can sometimes be hard to find in metal.
This latest work, however, seems a tad weak. It fails to encompass the atmosphere in your previous works and also seems a little rushed and/or half-assed. Please take a little more time on your next release. While you're at it, you might want to search within yourself to find your muse again.
IF you told me this was just some other band I would like it. But compared to Burzum's older work it does not stack up. But I do like this so far for what it is I suppose. I'm half way through. The riffs are good but the atmosphere is gone. Its not the same.
I don't even want to listen to it now that Mike, Jim and Conversationalist all hate it. Thats usually not a good sign.
ITT: BM SEWING CIRCLE
j/k, i might hate it too. DL'd, haven't been able to listen, yet. high expectations are a bitch.
post by MikeofdecrepitudE at Feb 19,2010 9:36pm edited Feb 19,2010 9:38pm
I definitely don't hate Belus but it doesn't reach the standards he once set. It feels like there are some good ideas that unfortunately went underdeveloped. His anguished screams have been replaced with ordinary black metal vocals. There's no synth, a lack of subtleties, and the atmosphere suffers because of it. There are some really cool riffs contained within but from an aesthetic standpoint, he's lacking the key ingredients needed to allow Belus to stand among his timeless works.
post by quintessence at Feb 19,2010 9:38pm edited Feb 19,2010 9:55pm
Its still better than his synth albums at least!
I pretty much agree down the line with everything MikeOV just said.
The first 35 seconds of Lost Wisdom make my hair stand on end every time and do more for me than this entire new album. Oh well you can't touch greatness I suppose.
not going to argue; this board isn't the correct place to discuss music regardless.
post by barbeloh at Feb 20,2010 8:43am
I dunno, it's not bad. No "Aske" or "Filosofem" but better for sure than "Daudi Baldurs" and the other albums where he dinked around with a key-tar and everybody called it "atmosphere."
I mean, was anybody really expecting him to "save" black metal from where it's gone or "turn back the clock" to the old Norway sound? Fuhgeddaboudit.
Those who disapprove may find solace in the knowledge that new Profanatica will glaze the baby Jesus' eyes shut with gelatinous and carcinogenic black semen. Promise.
Those who disapprove may find solace in the knowledge that new Profanatica will glaze the baby Jesus' eyes shut with gelatinous and carcinogenic black semen. Promise.
Waiting to see what they do to follow up on Profanatitas de Domonatia...
I downloaded it the other day. I've had some frustrating difficulties lately, long hours at work, and various stress that peaked with news of a second death in the family. There was an hour long drive to take, so the new Burzum was oddly perfect. Maybe it was because I was in the right state of mind, but I liked it.
For someone that hasn't played a guitar in years, he does a good job. The mid paced tempos work. I especially like the long droning/repetitious last instrumental.
I've been listening to this ALOT. I think it's a solid follow up to Filosofem, all the more making the ambient albums more important and brillant, seeing this is what came about after jailtime. It's a Burzum album. He never reinvented the wheel, you can feel a solid cross influence from the first 4 albums and his vocals are executed in production equally. I wasn't expecting another Hvis Lyset Tar Oss but this is a fucking solid album.
post by J.O. Buddy at Mar 17,2010 2:57am
He sure does have a purty mouth, that Vag Vikernes boy.
post by arilliusbm at Mar 29,2010 8:11am edited Mar 29,2010 8:12am
I hope there's a follow up album that's better. This album is so sub par for the standard he set himself.
need more blood curdling hatred and atmosphere plz.
this is the kind of album I could knit sweaters and drink tea to. I think varg lost a nutsack or two in prison
post by Yeti at Mar 29,2010 8:16am edited Mar 29,2010 8:19am
the standard was set almost 20 years ago, the last thing he did with guitar being 14 years ago. to think he could retain the magic of the first albums is foolish. this is an excellent progression and evolution, just as he has said all along it would be. he was driven by youthful naivety in the beginning of his career, this shows how much he has changed. I had high hopes for this and i don't feel it disappointed in any way.
it's like a ripoff of a clone of burzum clones. it tastes like cheap beer. you drink it cause it's there. kind of like this mac. OH SHIT I'M TURNING INTO CONSERVATIONIST
Hah, it sounds nothing like Burzum but it does give me a similar feeling that I received from Varg's earlier albums. I'm not fanatical over Belus but Varg is still the man and he'll always remain my favorite black metal musician.
haha jutht kidding. i'm interested to hear it. though new "black metal" makes me gag, there are the few that stand out. see i don't even really consider Burzum to be "black metal" in the traditional sense, his work always achieved more. that's why i like Belus so much, i don't consider it anything other than a work of Burzum. i mean i'm not saying it's some revolutionary piece to fap over, but i don't think it's poorly done/rushed/sub-par in any way. it was what Varg wanted to do, and that's all that matters. kind of like new Darkthrone sound.
I agree to a point. Nothing would change my opinion on him; however, that being said, I think he needs to rediscover his muse. That's why I'm hoping he does another album. Belus is missing stuff.
Jim, I think it will make my top 10, that's for sure. Autechre's Oversteps has yet to leak, but that comes out around the same time as Belus. From the samples I've heard, I'm certainly anticipating its release. 2010 seems to be a good year for music, in general.
Not thread related, but Oversteps = Autechre mind fuck awesomeness. Organic/melodic fractured compositions. This band just keeps evolving.
@ n***** 