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returntothepit >> discuss >> ATTN: guitarists using two amps at the same time by MarkFuckingRichards on Jun 20,2011 5:17pm
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toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Jun 20,2011 5:17pm
I've been using a Morley ABY box for a while, but I'm getting sick of dealing with intermittent ground loop. I've been looking at the Radial Tonebone, but wanted to see what others are using. Any help on what to check out or stay away from is greatly appreciated.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jun 20,2011 5:25pm
i'll give you a radial Tonebone.



toggletoggle post by AndrewBastard  at Jun 20,2011 5:32pm
the tonebone is an AB box? I thought it was just a hot gainy pedal?



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Jun 20,2011 5:37pm
Radical Tromboner?



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Jun 20,2011 5:51pm
I know of someone who just uses a boss stereo delay pedal and that works fine.



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Jun 20,2011 5:55pm
I could use one of my stereo pedals, but then I wouldn't be able to switch between amps. Andrew, I think maybe there's a Tonebone pedal and a Tonebone switcher (I think it's actually called the Switchbone).



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Jun 20,2011 5:57pm
ITT: Bone(rz)



toggletoggle post by nocuous_fumes_nli at Jun 20,2011 6:02pm
I used to run two amps. The Lehle stuff is the best for splitting signal. Hands down.



toggletoggle post by blue  at Jun 20,2011 6:53pm
Radial BigShot ABY.

/thread



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Jun 20,2011 6:59pm
Yeah, the Big Shot is the winner.

I actually use a Wobo ABY-TM which is pretty rad, but I'd probably be using my Bigshot were I not lending it out to my bassist.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Jun 20,2011 7:01pm
WOBO from Poland. Best on the market. Relays, gold connectors, True Bypass, ground loop switch, lifetime warranty.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Jun 20,2011 7:03pm
the only problem I've had with my wobo is that the input to the 9v adapter got all jacked up. Dave from b-sharp opened it up and basically said they put it in upside down, said, "Bad WOBO...but everything else in here is built like a tank"



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Jun 20,2011 7:04pm
You could always ship it back to that dude and he would fix it, but I agree...if yer buying from Poland it's a pain to ship back and obviously a mess up.

But from top to bottom these things have dealt with the worst conditions imaginable and stood up to it. Crystal clear signal. I've even spilled beer all over them, had Rusty stomp all over them, dropped them down stairs.

Still kickin', still sound great.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Jun 20,2011 7:05pm
Wait how would he put it in upside down? Like the negative was the positive and vice versa? Cause that's not upside down, and he labels the poles on his eBay listings. You just need a little adapter for that.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Jun 20,2011 7:08pm
honestly, I'm probably just remembering the exact problem wrong because it was fixed in 20 seconds. It was a physical thing, not a schematic level issue.



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Jun 21,2011 12:03am
Thanks for the input gentlemen. Cannot wait to get rid of the Morley and bask in delicious dual-amp tone.



toggletoggle post by Big bag of assorted nigger parts at Jun 21,2011 12:30am
Got the same ABY here, no prob ever, wtf?



toggletoggle post by DJ DEath at Jun 21,2011 12:46am
I use the Morley ABY in my band EERIE. As long as you arent using any 9v adapters/onespot and use Batteries in your pedals or on a channel strip, there is virtually no hum at all. I use two full Marshall Plexi stacks, cranked, and when the guitar is off, its just amp hiss. Try that out bro. Otherwise, the switchbone is awesome if using an adapter for your pedals



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Jun 21,2011 2:07am
I always use 9v adapters for my pedals, so that's probably why I'm getting ground loop. I don't understand why it's so intermittent though. Some days I have no issues whatsoever, then other days it's a constant battle. I even use 3 to 2 prong adapters on the power cables (even though I know I could destroy all my gear, and myself, in the process) and it doesn't help eliminate the issue completely.



toggletoggle post by timma at Jun 21,2011 8:32am
Use all 300 of your pedals and all 3 heads at the same time or GTFO, pussy.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Jun 21,2011 8:52am
Morley always seemed, to me, to have the worst bleed between a and b.



toggletoggle post by blue  at Jun 21,2011 9:00am
Fuck this whole thread, I'm getting a George Lynch tripler and stepping it up a notch.



toggletoggle post by DJ DEath at Jun 21,2011 9:20am
I use batteries too, over a wall supply. Yeah, to get better signal, the tripler or the Switchbone is where its at. Im just sticking with Morley



toggletoggle post by DrewBlood@Work at Jun 21,2011 9:26am
blue said[orig][quote]
Fuck this whole thread, I'm getting a George Lynch tripler and stepping it up a notch.


i can only imagine the kind of tap dancing you would have to do to accomplish this



toggletoggle post by matt_sways_in_the_wind  at Jun 21,2011 12:49pm
the radial big shot has a ground lift and phase switching, requires no power supply or batteries and is only 70 bucks new.

if i hadn't stolen Brian's he'd be using it right now.

the one downside is that there are no LED indicator lights to let you know what channel is activated.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Jun 21,2011 1:57pm
Anything is better than that tone sucking Morley.

I used to use one, too.

Believe me, the minute you switch to something true bypass it'll blow your mind how much signal you lost with that shit AB. I did a side by side back when I was in TTOS and you could clearly hear the signal loss. It was a few decibels and a lot of high end just thrown away.



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Jun 21,2011 2:00pm
timma said[orig][quote]
Use all 300 of your pedals and all 3 heads at the same time or GTFO, pussy.


FINE MAYBE I WILL.



toggletoggle post by brodown at Jun 22,2011 11:35am
timma said[orig][quote]
Use all 300 of your pedals and all 3 heads at the same time or GTFO, pussy.


Hey! That's Hivesmasher's schtick. We don't bring inflatable cocks and Hawaiian shirts to our shows, so you damn well better not take this from us!

COME AT US BROS



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Jun 22,2011 1:14pm
We'll come ON you, bros.



toggletoggle post by The_Rooster  at Jun 22,2011 1:33pm
I've been using Radial Twin City ABY. Has transformer inside to isolate the ground loop, and a ground lift if that isn't enough.

More importantly, it has a polarity switch to insure your amps are both pushing the speakers in the same direction.

A bit annoying that it needs an adapter.

Also, you may already know this, but always plug everything in your rig into the same circuit.



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Jun 22,2011 2:29pm
Yeah, I plug everything into my power conditioner. An adapter isn't that annoying since I've got a power strip mounted underneath my pedalboard.



toggletoggle post by t2daeeknli at Jun 23,2011 9:07am
were you trying to run two whole different rigs like two heads and two cabs?
the switch bone is great, but they have one called the head bone too that switches two heads on the same cab. you can't mix them though.

as far as the ground loops, power is shitty some places so you end up with tons of noise sometimes and others, not so much. if you are using any type of daisy chain sort of adapter, to split power from one pedal to 5 or something, then that's probably a good thing to replace. after i stopped using those, in favor of a power brick type thing, i rarely have any issues.
i gave up on power supplies for a while after i got tired of this same thing.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Jun 23,2011 9:50am
my roommate uses two amps at the same time.



toggletoggle post by timma at Jun 23,2011 9:52am
Also, 2 dildos.



toggletoggle post by blue  at Jun 23,2011 11:17am
French tickler



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Jun 23,2011 11:33am
A HURR HURR REAL FUNNY GUYS.

I'm running 2 full rigs (Engl Powerball into Vader cab and VHT Pittbull into Mesa cab). I plug both into a power conditioner so power from venues shouldn't be an issue. I definitely daisy chain my pedals though; I've been meaning to get a power brick or 2 or 5 but I need to ration out my spending money wisely. Those are next after the new ABY box.



toggletoggle post by t2daeeknli at Jun 24,2011 1:07am
word. i understand that whole routine... i'm saving up for a headbone vt now.
a friend of mine gave me a pedal board with a pedal power supply thing on it and I happened to have some power cables around... enough to power 5 boxes. I still don't even totally know what to do with all them toys. but either way, there hasn't been noise like I used to experience since I started using it. except for when we played in rochester, ny but that's more because I kept leaving the big muff on.



toggletoggle post by t2daeeknli at Jun 24,2011 1:14am
also, ABY boxes are great things to find from guys with home based shops on ebay. my effect loop box came from a guy in canada running a "company" out of his house called Righteous Tones. I payed 25 dollars for it and it's a true bypass unpowered box that is clean sounding enough for me to have a big muff running with all the knobs cranked in the loop while I'm bypassing the effects. He made ABY boxes but I'm not totally sure if he's still around.



toggletoggle post by t2daeeknli at Jun 24,2011 1:22am
http://cgi.ebay.com/Voodooman-ABY-Signal-R...&hash=item588d1cb915#ht_2178wt_1730

i've heard decent stuff from this name. but i feel like this might be a morley clone.



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Jun 24,2011 4:26am
I was actually thinking today that I'll have to ask Bradsauce if he can make an ABY box. He's making a ridiculous envelope filter for me right now, so I imagine he can make an ABY no problem.



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toggletoggle post by Obvious sarcasm at Nov 1,2018 7:15am
MarkFuckingRichards said[orig][quote]
I've been using a Morley ABY box for a while, but I'm getting sick of dealing with intermittent ground loop. I've been looking at the Radial Tonebone, but wanted to see what others are using. Any help on what to check out or stay away from is greatly appreciated.


Fulltone buffered aby-st. Seriously. Worth the money.



toggletoggle post by Obvious sarcasm? at Nov 1,2018 4:31pm
Obvious%20sarcasm said[orig][quote]
MarkFuckingRichards said[orig][quote]
I've been using a Morley ABY box for a while, but I'm getting sick of dealing with intermittent ground loop. I've been looking at the Radial Tonebone, but wanted to see what others are using. Any help on what to check out or stay away from is greatly appreciated.


Fulltone buffered aby-st. Seriously. Worth the money.


But seriously though, is it worth the money?



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