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returntothepit >> discuss >> Funny shit (for Kiss fans only) by Josh_Martin on Feb 8,2005 9:16am
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toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Feb 8,2005 9:16am
A friend of mine got a Kiss boot of all their tv appearances from The Elder era.
It has them playing on Fridays (the only actual live show they did for The Elder, Ace's last actual live show, rules!)
It's got them lipsynching on Solid Gold, its got them lipsynching on italian tv (the show where Ace was too drunk to show up and they went on as a trio)
But the best thing on it is Paul and Gene on the cerebral palsy telethon. Holy shit, I can't believe I never heard of this before.
Their segement opens with a shot of a rec room in some tard center. There's a bunch of tards with cerebral palsy rocking out to The Elder (The Oath is playing in the background). One tard dances all the way across the screen.
Paul and Gene come walking in. They're in their Elder costumes. Short hair, Pauil has that wicked gay purple headband on.
They each pick a tard and go up to it, kneel down and look the tard straight in the eye like they're going to have a serious conversation with it.
Paul interviews his tard first. He asks it some pre-scripted question. (Paul's New York jew accent is in full 100% effect here. I've never heard it this thick before, made him sound gayer than usual) The tard goes on about how the tards are in charge of the soda machine and it teaches them a sense of responsibility (in total Corky tard voice). Paul asks a bunch of other stupid questions including one about goals that was so dumb I began to wonder which one of them was really retarded. Finally the tard shuts up and they move over to Gene.
Gene's tard is in a wheelchair. Gene is kneeling and has his arm around its shoulder. Gene asks him the best question ever. He asks "How do you feel different from other, non-disabled, people?" (basically asking it if it knows it's retarded) The tard says something about how we're all people and he just happens to have a disability (they rehearsed the tards pretty good for this)
Gene cuts him off with a quick "thanks Joe"
They cut to Paul and Gene together with the tards. They give a plea for people to donate to the telethon, surrounded by all the tards.



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Feb 8,2005 9:18am
Haha, finally someone else who refers to sub-humans as 'it'



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Feb 8,2005 9:43am
I also saw a tape of Kiss on the Tom Snyder show. Dynasty era. Ace was fucking loaded. He was talking about his radio controlled helicopter and how the germans make the best ones. He kept talking about Germany. He raised his hand in the air to sieg hiel and then Gene jumped in and stopped him.

In another interview they asked Kiss about their upcoming Japan tour. Ace started doing a Don Rickels style asian imitation.
Ace rules. That guy is NEVER sober.



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Feb 8,2005 9:49am
Thats fuckin hilarious about the sieg heiling! especially because at least half of kiss are jewish!



toggletoggle post by KillerKadoogan   at Feb 8,2005 10:01am
oh man i gotta see the retard-athon



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Feb 8,2005 10:19am
Christraper said:
Thats fuckin hilarious about the sieg heiling! especially because at least half of kiss are jewish!


I've seen pictures of Ace in full nazi SS uniform. Apparenty he would get drunk, put the uniform on, and go banging on Gene's hotel room door in the middle of the night. Gene would answer the door and there would be Ace, drukenly babbling "we're here to take you away"




toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Feb 8,2005 10:37am
Excerpted from Kiss and Tell by Gordon G. G. Gebert, Bob McAdams. Copyright © 1997. Reprinted by permission. All rights reserved.

Chapter 8 - "Nazis Invade The L'Ermitage"

1980 was the last year Ace toured with KISS until their reunion tour in 1996. (When you hear this story you'll understand why).

Ace was a big time collector of "Nazi" regalia. In fact, he would contact antique dealers specializing in that sort of stuff whenever we were on the road.

We were in Los Angeles when Ace, Big John Hart (one of the bodyguards for KISS) and I went to the home of a guy who had an extensive collection of Nazi war memorabilia. Ace spent about $10,000 on two Nazi uniforms. They were the complete uniforms from head to toe, with real insignias, belts, holsters - the works. He also bought a bunch of other miscellaneous war items. I am personally not into that stuff, but I must say the uniforms were quite impressive.

KISS had off that night, so we went on a drinking spree. We were doing blow and popping valium all day and by the time we got back to the L'Ermitage, a very prestigious hotel in Los Angeles, it was around six p.m. We were both blitzed and we fell out for a few hours.

When we finally got up, I went downstairs to the cigarette machine in the bar and met these two very hot girls. I rapped with them for a while and told them that I would call them from my room if they waited at the bar. I went upstairs to tell Ace that I met these two incredibly hot babes - a blonde and a brunette. Ace got very excited and, of course, claimed automatic rights to the blonde, sight unseen.

So, we called them up to the room and ordered some champagne with a little orange juice. We were joking about how we needed something nutritious in our systems, referring to the O.J. We drank our mimosas and then cranked out the blow.

I had a great idea. "Let's go up to the Jacuzzi." Luckily for us there was no one using it and we went in nude. Ace and I started making out with them. I got a blow job under water. It was great.

We finally went back to the room, drank more mimosas and did more coke. We were having a great time. We did a little of the old in-out, in-out and eventually told them to put on the Nazi hats. They both obeyed our request and put on the officer's hat and the belts. My girl had thigh high boots, the belt, and the hat. Wow! She looked just like Charlotte Rampling in the movie The Night Porter. They looked decadent. In a few minutes, they started to go down on each other! It was incredible. Every guy's wet dream to see two beautiful babes in Nazi gear making love to each other!

It was around midnight and we were all still pretty high. The blonde (the one Ace was with) went into the bathroom and started screaming, "My hair! My fucking hair turned green!"

While in the Jacuzzi, I put this "pine stuff" in the water. It was supposed to make the water smell like pine. And, it did. But, it also turned her hair green because of her bleached hair. If she was a natural blonde, it wouldn't have happened. She was really pissed off. She split with her girlfriend.

Ace and I were left alone to amuse ourselves. Ace said, "Let's put on the Nazi uniforms."

So we put on the pants, the boots, the long officer's coats. We slicked our long hair back and put on the officer's hats. We definitely looked like German officers in a war movie. Ace had a huge boom box and he put on a cassette of a Hitler march. We started marching around the room. Ace pulled out more blow and we did another hit.

Then Ace blurted out, "Let's go to Gene's room!"

I was like, "I don't think that's a good idea. Ace." But like the real Nazi storm-troopers, I blindly followed my leader. Once again, the idiot that I am, I listened to him.

I followed Ace into the hallway with the boom box blaring. People were opening their doors to see what was going on. They'd slam the doors shut when they saw these two nuts marching through the hallways. We marched to Gene's hotel room door. Ace put the boom box on the ground, next to the door.

It was still blasting the march with a Hitler speech and throngs of people yelling 'Zieg Heil.' We started banging on Gene's door.

Gene's yelling, "Who is it? What do you want?" He was fucking some girl.

Ace started yelling, "Open up the door, Jew!"

Ace and I kicked the fucking door open. We broke the lock and everything. We marched into the room with the Nazi uniforms on. Ace was screaming, "Zieg Heil!." The girl was freaking out.

At first, Gene got a kick out of it. Then, Paul Stanley came out of his room and he got really pissed off. Fucking offended was more like it.

Of course, Ace started laughing hysterically. It was all just a big joke. Gene and Paul called Big John to come to the room and do something about Ace. But Big John couldn't stand Gene and Paul either. Big John liked Ace and Peter because he could get high around them and be himself. He had to be more business-like in front of Gene and Paul.

At this point, I was completely ashamed that I did this. Once again, I got dragged into the moment but that's no excuse. The thing that made this so bad was both Gene's parents were holocaust survivors.

Gene and Paul couldn't really do anything to Ace because he was in the band, but they would always look at me like I was a fucking asshole.

I guess I deserved it that time.



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Feb 8,2005 10:45am
Ace was always my favorite



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 8,2005 10:47am
I've got to see a copy of this, it sounds priceless, hahaha

no wonder Kiss are Venom's idols



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 8,2005 11:06am
That story just made my day



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Feb 8,2005 11:09am
Yea i definitely wont be able to look at ace frehley the same way ever again. I mean christ ive got a mozart bust in my room with ace frehely makeup on it!



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 8,2005 11:12am
Ace is definitely the coolest member of kiss

what an irreverant bastard! So great



toggletoggle post by KillerKadoogan   at Feb 8,2005 11:18am
that story just made my day



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 8,2005 11:19am
plagarism



toggletoggle post by KillerKadoogan   at Feb 8,2005 11:20am
haha woops

the funny thing is that i read your post, and still didnt realize i typed the same thing as you



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 8,2005 11:23am
haha

stoner



toggletoggle post by KillerKadoogan   at Feb 8,2005 11:28am
shhhhhhhhh

no one's supposed to know...



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Feb 8,2005 11:29am
it happens



toggletoggle post by KillerKadoogan   at Feb 8,2005 11:31am
much too often



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 8,2005 11:32am
There's nothing wrong with that



toggletoggle post by KillerKadoogan   at Feb 8,2005 11:41am
i'm glad you all see my side of things



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Feb 8,2005 11:46am
well its not like i can really make fun of anyone for their short term memory. I dont even remember what i was listening to on my way to work this morning.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney at Feb 8,2005 12:01pm
Josh_Martin said:
Ace and I started making out. I got a blow job under water. It was great.


A man can dream can't he?



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Feb 8,2005 12:08pm
wait.....so he was making out with Ace Frehley? Thats hot!



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Feb 8,2005 12:09pm
No, but there are stories of Ace getting loaded and making out with guys.



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Feb 8,2005 12:10pm
hahahahaha!!!!



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Feb 8,2005 12:15pm
I HAVE to read this book.

"Kiss and Tell" is one of those books that is a guilty pleasure. It's like a train wreck... you want to look away, but you can't. The authors are both former buddies of KISS lead guitarist Ace Frehley (albeit during different time periods). They were ostensibly "employed" by the band, but were equally utilized as paid social companions. Frehley is depicted as a physically abhorrent slob who doesn't flush toilets, will have sex with anything that moves, has bisexual tendencies, and lies, cheats, and steals from everyone with whom he is associated. Toward the end of the book we learn that Frehley is suing lead author Gordon Gebert, but that does little to discredit the narrative. No one could make stuff like this up. We learn that Gene Simmons loves the women, especially celebrities, but that he doesn't care for drink and drugs. Paul Stanley, though barely mentioned, is painted as insecure in his romantic relationships. Peter Criss is said to have the worst of the addiction problems, besides which fact he is a terrible drummer. The literary form is informal, the structure meandering, the editing terrible, and I really enjoyed this book."



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Feb 8,2005 1:40pm
Here's a Kiss pic featuring Paul's extra hetero headband. He looks like he's auditioning for an Olivia Newton John video.
This is pretty much how Paul and Gene were dressed for the tardathon.




toggletoggle post by Christraper at Feb 8,2005 1:43pm
theyre like......holding hands......



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 8,2005 1:52pm
those haircuts are unbelievable

seeya at The Ramrod



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Feb 8,2005 1:55pm
"ramrod".....huh huh huh......



toggletoggle post by ram_girl  at Feb 8,2005 2:10pm
Christraper said:
"ramrod".....huh huh huh......


Ram Girl likes "Ramrod"....



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Feb 8,2005 2:25pm
Christraper's ramrod?



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 8,2005 2:37pm
Boston / Boylston Street Ramrod. They don't allow women in there. I wonder why.



toggletoggle post by ram_girl  at Feb 8,2005 2:38pm
Christraper said:
Christraper's ramrod?


hahaha.....ah, yeah...



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 8,2005 2:40pm
I think the assless leather chaps may have something to do with it



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 8,2005 2:45pm
perhaps! They make Rob Halford seem straighter than Fred Phleps



toggletoggle post by BestialOnslaught  at Feb 8,2005 3:06pm
Josh_Martin said:
Paul Stanley, though barely mentioned, is painted as insecure in his romantic relationships.


Haha jesus, does Paul have a legal gag order on everyone ever associated with KISS from talking about his gayness?



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 8,2005 3:22pm
BestialOnslaught said:
Josh_Martin said:
Paul Stanley, though barely mentioned, is painted as insecure in his romantic relationships.


Haha jesus, does Paul have a legal gag order on everyone ever associated with KISS from talking about his gayness?


hahaha



toggletoggle post by Hooker  at Feb 8,2005 3:36pm
haaahahahaha this rules.



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Feb 8,2005 4:07pm
I don't know about Paul being gay. At worst he's bi.
Having the woman you want to marry stolen away by Dan Akroyd would probably make anyone insecure.



toggletoggle post by BestialOnslaught  at Feb 8,2005 5:37pm
This groupie chick used to post at the Metal Maniacs board (she was married to the drummer of RIGOR MORTIS and was with Billy Milano for a long time) and she had a Gene Simmons encounter... She used to talk about how Paul was into dudes... His mannerisms and voice definitely scream gay-chromosome, even if he also has an extensive history with chicks.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Feb 8,2005 5:50pm
i've had 2 encounters..once when i was 20 and once last summer

i don't like him:

he was a pervert and a sissy at the same time with a major attitude..i saw the way he treated these people who were all about him and if that were me..i would have been pissed...
this guy was such a sweetheart:

they were my first favorite band as a kid, i have love gun and destroyer on vinyl (my first albums when i 3 thanks to my big brother)...i even have an 8 track..



toggletoggle post by Blue  at Feb 8,2005 6:06pm
man, i would love to see that video. im a sucker for anything kiss.

i listened to my 'lick it up' 7" slowed down last night, it sounded just like black label society. in a bad way. because i do not like bls.



toggletoggle post by Hooker  at Feb 8,2005 6:14pm
hmmmmm. interesting.



toggletoggle post by BestialOnslaught  at Feb 10,2005 11:09pm
succubus said:
i've had 2 encounters..once when i was 20 and once last summer


Her encounter was more like a weekend of fucking in a hotel room.



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Jul 5,2005 11:02am
Bump 'cause I watched the tardathon again last night.



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Jul 5,2005 11:08am
oh god this sounds so fucking classic



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Oct 16,2005 1:23am
bump



toggletoggle post by thedeparted   at Oct 16,2005 1:29am
rock and roll




toggletoggle post by todayistheday at Oct 16,2005 2:40am
nice poster.....



toggletoggle post by thedeparted   at Oct 16,2005 2:47am
not my house, but i agree 100%, you have a good eye
ha



toggletoggle post by Anthony nli at Oct 16,2005 2:11pm
I have the Crazy Nights promo VHS. I picked it up at a used record store a few years ago. It has three promo videos on it... i cant remember the song titles except for crazy nights was the last one...

Paul Stanley is doing all the lead vocals on these songs and, although he wears a guitar in all three of the videos, he does not play a single note the entire time. All the videos are wicked funny.



toggletoggle post by Anthony nli at Oct 16,2005 2:12pm
succubus said:


they were my first favorite band as a kid, i have love gun and destroyer on vinyl (my first albums when i 3 thanks to my big brother)...i even have an 8 track..


that pic is awesome



toggletoggle post by Josh NLI at May 30,2006 9:32am
Bump by popular demand



toggletoggle post by Anthony nli at May 30,2006 12:14pm



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at May 30,2006 12:18pm
Josh_Martin said:
Excerpted from Kiss and Tell by Gordon G. G. Gebert, Bob McAdams. Copyright © 1997. Reprinted by permission. All rights reserved.

Chapter 8 - "Nazis Invade The L'Ermitage"

1980 was the last year Ace toured with KISS until their reunion tour in 1996. (When you hear this story you'll understand why).

Ace was a big time collector of "Nazi" regalia. In fact, he would contact antique dealers specializing in that sort of stuff whenever we were on the road.

We were in Los Angeles when Ace, Big John Hart (one of the bodyguards for KISS) and I went to the home of a guy who had an extensive collection of Nazi war memorabilia. Ace spent about $10,000 on two Nazi uniforms. They were the complete uniforms from head to toe, with real insignias, belts, holsters - the works. He also bought a bunch of other miscellaneous war items. I am personally not into that stuff, but I must say the uniforms were quite impressive.

KISS had off that night, so we went on a drinking spree. We were doing blow and popping valium all day and by the time we got back to the L'Ermitage, a very prestigious hotel in Los Angeles, it was around six p.m. We were both blitzed and we fell out for a few hours.

When we finally got up, I went downstairs to the cigarette machine in the bar and met these two very hot girls. I rapped with them for a while and told them that I would call them from my room if they waited at the bar. I went upstairs to tell Ace that I met these two incredibly hot babes - a blonde and a brunette. Ace got very excited and, of course, claimed automatic rights to the blonde, sight unseen.

So, we called them up to the room and ordered some champagne with a little orange juice. We were joking about how we needed something nutritious in our systems, referring to the O.J. We drank our mimosas and then cranked out the blow.

I had a great idea. "Let's go up to the Jacuzzi." Luckily for us there was no one using it and we went in nude. Ace and I started making out with them. I got a blow job under water. It was great.

We finally went back to the room, drank more mimosas and did more coke. We were having a great time. We did a little of the old in-out, in-out and eventually told them to put on the Nazi hats. They both obeyed our request and put on the officer's hat and the belts. My girl had thigh high boots, the belt, and the hat. Wow! She looked just like Charlotte Rampling in the movie The Night Porter. They looked decadent. In a few minutes, they started to go down on each other! It was incredible. Every guy's wet dream to see two beautiful babes in Nazi gear making love to each other!

It was around midnight and we were all still pretty high. The blonde (the one Ace was with) went into the bathroom and started screaming, "My hair! My fucking hair turned green!"

While in the Jacuzzi, I put this "pine stuff" in the water. It was supposed to make the water smell like pine. And, it did. But, it also turned her hair green because of her bleached hair. If she was a natural blonde, it wouldn't have happened. She was really pissed off. She split with her girlfriend.

Ace and I were left alone to amuse ourselves. Ace said, "Let's put on the Nazi uniforms."

So we put on the pants, the boots, the long officer's coats. We slicked our long hair back and put on the officer's hats. We definitely looked like German officers in a war movie. Ace had a huge boom box and he put on a cassette of a Hitler march. We started marching around the room. Ace pulled out more blow and we did another hit.

Then Ace blurted out, "Let's go to Gene's room!"

I was like, "I don't think that's a good idea. Ace." But like the real Nazi storm-troopers, I blindly followed my leader. Once again, the idiot that I am, I listened to him.

I followed Ace into the hallway with the boom box blaring. People were opening their doors to see what was going on. They'd slam the doors shut when they saw these two nuts marching through the hallways. We marched to Gene's hotel room door. Ace put the boom box on the ground, next to the door.

It was still blasting the march with a Hitler speech and throngs of people yelling 'Zieg Heil.' We started banging on Gene's door.

Gene's yelling, "Who is it? What do you want?" He was fucking some girl.

Ace started yelling, "Open up the door, Jew!"

Ace and I kicked the fucking door open. We broke the lock and everything. We marched into the room with the Nazi uniforms on. Ace was screaming, "Zieg Heil!." The girl was freaking out.

At first, Gene got a kick out of it. Then, Paul Stanley came out of his room and he got really pissed off. Fucking offended was more like it.

Of course, Ace started laughing hysterically. It was all just a big joke. Gene and Paul called Big John to come to the room and do something about Ace. But Big John couldn't stand Gene and Paul either. Big John liked Ace and Peter because he could get high around them and be himself. He had to be more business-like in front of Gene and Paul.

At this point, I was completely ashamed that I did this. Once again, I got dragged into the moment but that's no excuse. The thing that made this so bad was both Gene's parents were holocaust survivors.

Gene and Paul couldn't really do anything to Ace because he was in the band, but they would always look at me like I was a fucking asshole.

I guess I deserved it that time.





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