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returntothepit >> discuss >> top bands that have influenced bad music by kessaris on Dec 1,2005 3:18am
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toggletoggle post by kessaris   at Dec 1,2005 3:18am
instead of talking about the worst 5 band you can think of, talk about the bands that you hate because they influenced a lot of bad music. Lets keep it clean, no racism, no biggotry...just a smooth hate filled post

I expect to see a lot of Tool and Nirvana bashing. Spare no expense at NIN and Marilyn Manson



toggletoggle post by Anthony nli at Dec 1,2005 5:01am
I love At the Gates and Slaughter of the Soul is an awesome record, but they have influenced a slew of shit-tacular bands.



toggletoggle post by InventorofEvil  at Dec 1,2005 6:15am
Lets see..Korn,Beastie Boys,and Rage Against the Machine all had a lot of influence on Nu/Rapmetal.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Dec 1,2005 6:50am
suffocation sucks black bawls



toggletoggle post by KillerKadoogan   at Dec 1,2005 7:13am
U2



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Dec 1,2005 7:59am
Suffocation, Slapshot

also Nirvana, who I do like some of their stuff, but they are responsible for alot of crappy bands after them.



toggletoggle post by Sinistas   at Dec 1,2005 8:03am
Pantera.



toggletoggle post by anonymousity at Dec 1,2005 8:05am
Nirvana is a great band, but, they copied from bands like Melvins, Raincoats, and the Vaselines. But yeah, now we have tons of mallcore bands laughing alot while they shop for video games. Faggers.



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Dec 1,2005 8:10am
I know Nirvana came from other bands, but those bands didnt influence bad music, they influenced Nirvana, Dinosaur Jr., and such, then those bands influenced bad bands like Pearl Jam, and whoever those other bands were.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Dec 1,2005 8:12am
Agnostic Front. I love all of the "actual" AF albums (not the comeback garbage), even "One Voice". But damn, they sure did their part to help ruin hardcore.



toggletoggle post by anonymousity at Dec 1,2005 8:12am
correct you are. And pearl jam as we no are probably all gay, really gay.



toggletoggle post by anonymousity at Dec 1,2005 8:13am
pearl jam as we know, sorry. Agnostic front, ahhhhh..... uganda



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Dec 1,2005 9:44am
all those 80s new wave bands who influenced all the shit bands out now like the bravery and all that other crap.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Dec 1,2005 9:44am
whoever the used and my chemical romance are influenced by.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Dec 1,2005 9:46am
i'm sure dimmu borgir will spawn thousands of mall black metal bands soon. all the former marilyn manson ball lickers are really into dimmu since that ozzfest they were on.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Dec 1,2005 9:53am
dreadkill said:
i'm sure dimmu borgir will spawn thousands of mall black metal bands soon. all the former marilyn manson ball lickers are really into dimmu since that ozzfest they were on.


Can't wait.




toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Dec 1,2005 9:55am
i'm cringing at the thought of it. we don't need any more wretched asylums.



toggletoggle post by babyshaker at Dec 1,2005 9:55am
cradle of filth in my eyes spawned 13 winters and i'll never forgive them for that



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 1,2005 9:56am
Sinistas said:
Pantera.





toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Dec 1,2005 10:06am
tops, jackson 5, and any other group that thought it was OK to encourage black people to become musically involved.



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Dec 1,2005 10:11am
Dimmu Borgir
Daughters
Killswitch Engage
Unearth



toggletoggle post by Cecchini   at Dec 1,2005 10:15am
I hate Nirvana and their existence gave birth to an entire slew of shitty bands.

Killswitch and Unearth will forever be responsible for turning the local scene into metalcore central here.

Pantera was awesome but everyone trying to copy them was not.

Nirvana is still gay.



toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at Dec 1,2005 10:46am
you guys are blaming the wrong people

it's weak-minded impressionable folk you should be making fun of



toggletoggle post by babyshaker at Dec 1,2005 10:54am
i like pantera and it makes me laugh how much everyone on this board hates them ....more so i enjoy the power metal cd as well....idk i just dont think they sucked



toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at Dec 1,2005 10:56am
pantera certainly did not suck



toggletoggle post by InventorofEvil  at Dec 1,2005 11:03am
Machine Head and Slipsnot are 2 others



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Dec 1,2005 11:04am
hahahaha I clicked on this thread with the intention of posting a Pantera photo



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Dec 1,2005 11:05am
Pantera's "The Great Southern Trendkill" was a sick sick sick fucking album. As were Far Beyond Driven and Vulgar Display of Power; just TGST has some fucking BRUTAL songs on it.



toggletoggle post by pisscup at Dec 1,2005 11:06am
Oh, this is easy -

Minor Threat
Youth of Today
Fugazi
Bad Religion
Slayer



toggletoggle post by pisscup at Dec 1,2005 11:08am
oops, I forgot Green Day



toggletoggle post by SickSickSicks   at Dec 2,2005 5:03am
Anthony nli said:
I love At the Gates and Slaughter of the Soul is an awesome record, but they have influenced a slew of shit-tacular bands.




ABSOLUTELY!!!!


metallica as well



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Dec 2,2005 5:07am
SacreligionNLI said:
you guys are blaming the wrong people

it's weak-minded impressionable folk you should be making fun of


like who, you?



toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at Dec 2,2005 5:29am
how'd i know you'd be the dick to say that?



toggletoggle post by MarkKevorkian  at Dec 2,2005 7:34am
Faith No More
Helmet



toggletoggle post by babyshakedoesnt feel like loggin in at Dec 2,2005 7:53am
i can see helmet but how faith no more



toggletoggle post by Mess at Dec 2,2005 7:55am
Mike Patton



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Dec 2,2005 12:00pm
babyshakedoesnt feel like loggin in said:
i can see helmet but how faith no more


papa roach and all the shitty bands like them claimed to be influenced mainly by faith no more.

also, whoever said fugazi, that was a good call. they are responsible for influencing a ton of shitty bands.



toggletoggle post by MarkKevorkian  at Dec 2,2005 4:01pm
babyshakedoesnt feel like loggin in said:
i can see helmet but how faith no more


All those faggy numetal rap bullshit bands say they influenced them, I don't know how just going with what I've read



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Dec 2,2005 4:06pm
good thread

how bout cannibal corpse, iron maiden, deicide, testament, ozzy, dark throne, emperor, dream theatre


now i like a lot of those bands but they have indeed spawned some bad shit!



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Dec 2,2005 4:09pm
SacreligionNLI said:
pantera certainly did suck


Yup.



toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at Dec 2,2005 4:18pm
isn't that illegal?

you're lucky i'm such a nice guy



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Dec 2,2005 4:22pm
I fixed it, not illegal.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Dec 2,2005 4:24pm
IN FLAMES and KORN
and I hate to say it but Faith No More.



toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at Dec 2,2005 4:57pm
AUTOPSY_666 said:
I changed it, it's illegal.


i know



toggletoggle post by MikeGore at Dec 2,2005 5:29pm
Suffocation is the king of spawning shitty bands.



toggletoggle post by MarkKevorkian  at Dec 2,2005 7:08pm
Carcass



toggletoggle post by retzam at Dec 2,2005 11:01pm
I don't feel like thinking too hard about this, so I'm gonna go back to Venom. They influenced probably every black and death metal band up through the mid-90s, and lots of black and death metal bands (just like lots of bands from any genre) are bad.



toggletoggle post by ArrowHead nli at Dec 3,2005 3:02am
1) to correct Joe Notcommons incorrect assumption: Nirvana DID draw on indie punk influences and drag them into the mainstream, influencing a slew of crappy bands. However, you'd be incorrect saying they influenced Pearl Jam. Firstly, Pearl Jam gained noteriety BEFORE Nirvana hit the spotlight. Second, Cobain and Vedder were both publically vocal about their dislike of each others music and styles. Thirdly, Pearl Jam drew upon pretty straight forward classic rock influences (zeppelin, stones, doors) whereas Nirvana drew from the already mentioned pool of indie-punk bands.

2) I've noticed in a couple threads now that Kessaris doesn't like TOOL. I get a strange feeling that either you've never really taken the time to listen to much of their music, or that if you did it was not until long after they had first hit the scene. When TOOL first hit airwaves in the early 90's, the radio and MTV were dominated by alternative, pop, and pop-punk crap like nirvana, gin blossoms, pearl jam, etc. TOOL was the only band at the time that was bringing progressive and technical music into the limelight. I do agree that they inspired a lot of shitty bands (breaking benjamin, earshot, etc...) but I think that if it weren't for the inspiration of TOOL at the time a lot of the young musicians who they got interested in progressive and technical music would have continued on in the no-solos straight 4/4 grunge bullshit direction. I think todays popularity of a lot of technical and progressive stuff owes a lot to TOOL bringing these styles back into focus over ten years ago. Not to mention that in a sea of alterna-teen angst ridden grunge crap, they were one of the few bands that still made HEAVY music appeal to the mass audiences again.



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Dec 3,2005 3:43am
MikeGore said:
Suffocation is the king of spawning shitty bands.


Name one.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Dec 3,2005 12:08pm
ArrowHead nli said:
1) to correct Joe Notcommons incorrect assumption: Nirvana DID draw on indie punk influences and drag them into the mainstream, influencing a slew of crappy bands. However, you'd be incorrect saying they influenced Pearl Jam. Firstly, Pearl Jam gained noteriety BEFORE Nirvana hit the spotlight. Second, Cobain and Vedder were both publically vocal about their dislike of each others music and styles. Thirdly, Pearl Jam drew upon pretty straight forward classic rock influences (zeppelin, stones, doors) whereas Nirvana drew from the already mentioned pool of indie-punk bands.

2) I've noticed in a couple threads now that Kessaris doesn't like TOOL. I get a strange feeling that either you've never really taken the time to listen to much of their music, or that if you did it was not until long after they had first hit the scene. When TOOL first hit airwaves in the early 90's, the radio and MTV were dominated by alternative, pop, and pop-punk crap like nirvana, gin blossoms, pearl jam, etc. TOOL was the only band at the time that was bringing progressive and technical music into the limelight. I do agree that they inspired a lot of shitty bands (breaking benjamin, earshot, etc...) but I think that if it weren't for the inspiration of TOOL at the time a lot of the young musicians who they got interested in progressive and technical music would have continued on in the no-solos straight 4/4 grunge bullshit direction. I think todays popularity of a lot of technical and progressive stuff owes a lot to TOOL bringing these styles back into focus over ten years ago. Not to mention that in a sea of alterna-teen angst ridden grunge crap, they were one of the few bands that still made HEAVY music appeal to the mass audiences again.



I don't know about TOOL inspiring shitty bands, I just don't really like TOOL based on their own merits. Also, when you're talking about TOOL, the way you capitalize TOOL every time makes you look like kind of a TOOL.



toggletoggle post by Eddie  at Dec 3,2005 12:46pm
i think every band that inspires music spawns shitty bands. By realizing this you all could of saved like 10-20 seconds of your time.



toggletoggle post by MikeGore at Dec 3,2005 6:22pm
AUTOPSY_666 said:
MikeGore said:
Suffocation is the king of spawning shitty bands.


Name one.


Internal Bleeding



toggletoggle post by Nate nli at Dec 3,2005 6:45pm
Internal Bleeding was great a while back. "Driven to Conquer" was their last good CD though.



toggletoggle post by rigor penis at Dec 3,2005 6:45pm
you are all wrong the correct band is the MISFITS!



toggletoggle post by Timma at Dec 3,2005 9:48pm
driven to conquer is a great fuckin album.

and props to anthony for the use of the word "shit-tacular"



toggletoggle post by ArrowHead nli at Dec 4,2005 5:58am
DestroyYouAlot said:

I don't know about TOOL inspiring shitty bands, I just don't really like TOOL based on their own merits. Also, when you're talking about TOOL, the way you capitalize TOOL every time makes you look like kind of a TOOL.


Ah, criticizing grammar, the last desperate means of attack for a flailing webtard.




toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at Dec 4,2005 6:23am
more of a wacky waving inflatable arm flailing grammartard



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot NLI at Dec 5,2005 12:41am
"Well, what else is open? Besides your mouth...when you're like kissing on some gay dude and like holding his muscles, cuz his arms just are like wrapped around you...and you feel like so safe cuz you're like, you know, not like you're gay or nothin' but God you just want to like bury yourself in his chest and just live there forever."



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Dec 7,2005 9:21am
babyshaker said:
cradle of filth in my eyes spawned 13 winters and i'll never forgive them for that

god what is up with fags and shit who dont know shit about cradle and all you other people who dont know hardcore metal and just run your mouths all the fucking time so do me a favor shut the hell up



toggletoggle post by Beakey   at Dec 7,2005 9:32am
You people are all gay.



toggletoggle post by babyshaker at Dec 7,2005 9:37am
anonymous said:
babyshaker said:
cradle of filth in my eyes spawned 13 winters and i'll never forgive them for that

god what is up with fags and shit who dont know shit about cradle and all you other people who dont know hardcore metal and just run your mouths all the fucking time so do me a favor shut the hell up


your anonymous and defending cradle of filth i dont need to make fun of you i've already won



toggletoggle post by Messerschmitt at Dec 7,2005 9:40am
suffocation still sucks. fuck you



toggletoggle post by Loser metalhead at Dec 7,2005 1:19pm
my dying bride spawned 13 winters and i'll never forgive them for that.



toggletoggle post by idiot #5 at Dec 7,2005 1:19pm
moonspell spawned 13 winters and i'll never forgive them for that.



toggletoggle post by pussy guitar player at Dec 7,2005 1:20pm
pantera spawned 13 winters and i'll never forgive them for that.



toggletoggle post by music hater at Dec 7,2005 1:20pm
dimmu borgir spawned 13 winters and i'll never forgive them for that.



toggletoggle post by I can't play bass at Dec 7,2005 1:21pm
type o negative spawned 13 winters and i'll never forgive them for that.



toggletoggle post by I'm scared at Dec 7,2005 1:21pm
morbid angel spawned 13 winters and i'll never forgive them for that.



toggletoggle post by deathmetal all the way! at Dec 7,2005 1:22pm
cannibal corpse spawned 13 winters and i'll never forgive them for that.



toggletoggle post by i hate girls at Dec 7,2005 1:23pm
arch enemy spawned 13 winters and i'll never forgive them for that.



toggletoggle post by nile sucks at Dec 7,2005 1:23pm
nile spawned 13 winters and i'll never forgive them for that.



toggletoggle post by fuck brazil at Dec 7,2005 1:24pm
sepultura spawned 13 winters and i'll never forgive them for that.



toggletoggle post by i hate girls at Dec 7,2005 1:24pm
kittie spawned 13 winters and i'll never forgive them for that.



toggletoggle post by metallica rulz at Dec 7,2005 1:25pm
magadeth spawned 13 winters and i'll never forgive them for that.



toggletoggle post by i hate wierd shit at Dec 7,2005 1:26pm
primus spawned 13 winters and i'll never forgive them for that.



toggletoggle post by i hate girls at Dec 7,2005 1:26pm
crisis spawned 13 winters and i'll never forgive them for that.



toggletoggle post by i hate girls at Dec 7,2005 1:26pm
nightwish spawned 13 winters and i'll never forgive them for that.



toggletoggle post by fuck maine metal at Dec 7,2005 1:27pm
anno daemonicus spawned 13 winters and i'll never forgive them for that.



toggletoggle post by fuck maine metal at Dec 7,2005 1:28pm
old serpent also spawned 13 winters and i'll never forgive them for that.



toggletoggle post by old school at Dec 7,2005 1:28pm
iron maiden spawned 13 winters and i'll never forgive them for that.



toggletoggle post by black metal sucks at Dec 7,2005 1:29pm
king diamond spawned 13 winters and i'll never forgive them for that.



toggletoggle post by Beakey   at Dec 7,2005 1:30pm
Nirvana spawned 13 Winters but, in all honesty, I forgive them for that.



toggletoggle post by nirvana sucks at Dec 7,2005 1:35pm
Beakey said:
Nirvana spawned 13 Winters but, in all honesty, I forgive them for that.



Unfortunatly, you're right.



toggletoggle post by Beakey   at Dec 7,2005 1:41pm
When have I been wrong?



toggletoggle post by Anon at Dec 8,2005 10:47am
I just took an ex-lax.. I should be spawning a 13 Winters any minute now.



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