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returntothepit >> discuss >> Some hardcore band I recorded last night by niccolai on Jul 9,2006 11:00am
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toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Jul 9,2006 11:00am edited Jul 9,2006 11:00am
Oviously you guys aren't going to like the band, but I'm looking for production criticism.


http://www.myspace.com/boundbyregrethc

They have kindof a back of tha neck / in our blood sound.

the recording is a rough mix, unmastered.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Jul 9,2006 11:52am
it should sound awesome once it is mastered....
the song sort of sounds like "thick as blood" from black my heart



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Jul 9,2006 11:54am
for instance in the bridge where the one guitar is is on the left side i think the drums should be alittle bit clearer and maybe get the guitar to come through alittle bit more (get rid of the fuzz from the right guitar) which all can be fixed once mastered



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jul 9,2006 11:54am
that'll sound really great mastered. as it stands now it's still way better then my band's demo. haha.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Jul 9,2006 11:55am
correction the black my heart song i was thinking of "i did it all... these are the days"



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Jul 9,2006 12:22pm
I think I'm going to finnish the mix, then Mike Healey is problably going to master it.

The recording was free for the band. They practice at priority in Hanson, and if you rent there you get 7 free hours of recording time.

Luke was going to record them, but got into a fight with their guitarist and wouldn't record them anymore, he told them t get their own engineer, and I happened to be in the building so I got roped into it.

They wouldn't even buy me a drink for it haha.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Jul 9,2006 12:27pm
sounds like Hatebreed



toggletoggle post by sinistas   at Jul 9,2006 12:30pm
what assholes



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Jul 9,2006 12:36pm
sinistas said:
what assholes


Whatever, they were broke and just kids.

As long as I get credit and they buy me a pizza at some point in my life.



toggletoggle post by sinistas   at Jul 9,2006 1:15pm
From the sound of it, you didn't have to record them. If that's not the case, my apologies, but even if it came free, I'd try to throw something your way for the trouble.



toggletoggle post by sinistas   at Jul 9,2006 1:17pm
OR credit you on el myspace.



toggletoggle post by TheGreatSpaldino   at Jul 9,2006 4:13pm
anonymous said:
correction the black my heart song i was thinking of "i did it all... these are the days"


are you sure it isnt "Do you like my new sweet fist make up?!"



toggletoggle post by blue  at Jul 9,2006 4:31pm
sounds great, the one criticism i have is that the kick drum doesnt have enough of that 'click' to help it cut through.



toggletoggle post by vahn at Jul 9,2006 5:31pm
you can never have enough krew vokills... *drinks from a straw*



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Jul 9,2006 6:46pm
blue said:
sounds great, the one criticism i have is that the kick drum doesnt have enough of that 'click' to help it cut through.


yea it's pretty weak. I'm going to boost it in the mix, but the bass drum didn't sound to hot in the first place, I'll see what I can do.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jul 9,2006 7:00pm
my only criticism is that this band doesn't sound identical to Slapshot or Infest. Because - as I'm sure someone will eventually point out - every hardcore band ever should sound like Minor Threat.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jul 9,2006 7:05pm
Definitely not a fan of this style of "hardcore", but the recording is pretty excellent.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 9,2006 7:06pm
I didn't read anything in this thread. but I support minor threat.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jul 9,2006 7:30pm edited Jul 9,2006 7:30pm
Also... Slapshot, Minor Threat and Infest sound nothing like each other.



toggletoggle post by tbone_r nli at Jul 9,2006 7:59pm
al cole and affiliated are looking for a place to record, how much would you charge there nick?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 9,2006 8:40pm
I thought you hated the affiliated? oh no, that's the confrontation



toggletoggle post by ArrowHead nli at Jul 9,2006 10:11pm
Sounds good.

Try turning the cymbals down a cunt-hair, and tweaking up a little at 15k. It'll come across, but it'll sound a little less "dull".

The snare sound is good, but it needs some punch. Theres a million things you can do. Copy the track, and make an identical snare. Tweak the eq, add a little (LITTLE!) reverb, and mix it back in with the other track. Now tweak the eq of the original to accomodate it. (pull back the frequencies you boosted on the other track.

You've got a good, loud, and punchy recording. In my opinion, for hardcore, the guitars are a little muddy and the bass is really loud. It's a good mix, but listen to some old murphy's law or the first terror record.

As for your bass drum, if you make an effort to come to Plymouth and can mix down the bass track to a wav file I could probably resample it, and give you a sampled track to mix in with the original.

You can get my # from the kid that got peed on by a girl.



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Jul 9,2006 11:46pm
haha


I already have your number Pete.
Sedate moved out of the old cafe upstairs and we found some of Gary's "collection" including a HUGE dildo (about 24" tall, as wide around as a football) and some print out sheets of this naked like 14 year old girl covered in moles.

one of which she is involved with the huge dildo, which I nicknamed "The Destroyer"



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Jul 9,2006 11:51pm
tbone_r nli said:
al cole and affiliated are looking for a place to record, how much would you charge there nick?


I wouldn't charge them anything (at this point, I just want to build up some credentials), but The woods and affiliated practice at priority don't they?

If they still do, that entitles them to 7 free hours of recording time, they only haveto ask Luke about schedualing their free 7 hour recording session. Also, Luke knows his way around protools plugins better than I do, so he may be able to record them better, they just need to make sure they get a copy of the project on DVDRW and have someone more qualified than Luke mix and master it.

If Alex wants, he can IM me (Xedora) if he has questions.


That's how Rohis recorded their EP. 100% free.



toggletoggle post by MadOakDevin  at Jul 10,2006 12:48am edited Jul 10,2006 12:51am
I would do some EQ to the toms and kick, but other than that, good job dude.

they seem really boosted in the 4k area so it's just a snappy sound you need some other stuff to fill it all out.




toggletoggle post by tbone_r nli at Jul 10,2006 7:09am
niccolai said:
tbone_r nli said:
al cole and affiliated are looking for a place to record, how much would you charge there nick?


I wouldn't charge them anything (at this point, I just want to build up some credentials), but The woods and affiliated practice at priority don't they?

If they still do, that entitles them to 7 free hours of recording time, they only haveto ask Luke about schedualing their free 7 hour recording session. Also, Luke knows his way around protools plugins better than I do, so he may be able to record them better, they just need to make sure they get a copy of the project on DVDRW and have someone more qualified than Luke mix and master it.

If Alex wants, he can IM me (Xedora) if he has questions.


That's how Rohis recorded their EP. 100% free.




they share a practice space and the woods ended up taking all the free recording time. i'll give al your sn though.



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