damn. hold on

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SG-LgqDdyq8

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VZ-9KAJVlZw

looks somewhat intriguing, if anything, to see what kind of argument he fleshes out that will show empiricism as equal or inferior to faith.

Ben Stein is a hardcore republican, who was a speech writer for Nixon.

God Bless Ben Stein.

This is a GREAT video. Thank You.

I am not a religious freak by any means....but he poses a great question as to why Darwinists really take the stance that they have. Are they followers on a different level? Why do they (Darwinists) think of themselves and their opinions so highly?

Seems to me like the Crusades all over again...with the exception that now they (Darwinists) now have a voice.

What makes them any better than any religious cult that pushes their bullshit opinions upon the masses?

Riddle me that, Batman....

Labcoats.

bennyhillifier

You can't separate science from religion?

Every time I think you can't possibly get any dumber you manage to top yourself.

I don't see what could possibly be so angering about this video. You are an arrogant bastard if you think that believing intelligent design is more "crazy" to prescribe to as believing that the universe, the planets, earth, and everything in it was a complete fucking mistake brought on by a 1-in-a-(insert astronomically large unknown digit)-chance chemical reaction. You've got to remember, it is, after all, called the Big Bang THEORY.

The non-fiction section at the library.

I'm dumb because I don't subscribe to your brand of bullshit? Sounds to me like you should be wearing a hood and burning non-Christians. Are you going to persecute me now because I don't believe in your hocus-pocus?

Gimme a break, kid. Go back to popping zits on your self-righteous, mommas boy face.

anyone who can't understand darwanism is a dope and needs to take time to look at shit

If we were intelligently designed why the fuck to we have appendixes? and other such vestigial organs and parts?


I mean think about it, darwanism is the survival of a certain set of genes

here goes the a-bomb of darwinism that was studied as it happened, not guessed at...

In england before the industrial revolution, most of the moths around london were white with a minority of them darker colored, brown, black etc... this being because the trees which they rested on were white, so they blended in better and birds didn't eat them ie take them out of the gene pool, leaving the white ones to reproduce more

after a few years of smog and all the other pleasantries of the factories they noticed that there was a majority of darker moths and a minority of the white type of the same species, this was because the trees in the area where stained and covered in soot so they were dark, thus the dark ones blended in better and the white ones were eaten and taken out of the gene pool.


but darwinism is fake because we all know the world is only 6000 years old, this can be figured out by studying the genealogy of the bible

The reason why "intelligent design" doesn't get any credibility as a science is because it CANNOT BE OBSERVED. Wrap it up in all the scientific language you want; it doesn't change the fact that researchers persuing it are trying to prove that a creator being is responsible for everything in the universe.

Not that life adapts to the environment around it and by looking at fossils and remains of precursors to life today's we can see such changes. Or that the stars magnitude and relative distance from Earth might just indicate how old our universe is. Or going back to first grade let's see how ID falls into the Scientific Method

-Ask a Question
Okay, you're doing that
-Do Background Research
Yep, you're doing that
-Construct a Hypothesis
"A wizard did it", a little strange but let's see where you're taking this.
-Test Your Hypothesis by Doing an Experiment
Are you there God? It's me...SCIENCE
-Analyze Your Data and Draw a Conclusion
DNA is complex so someone had to have made it
-Communicate Your Results
DAMN YOU DARWINIST ESTABLISHMENT FOR SILENCING MY FAULTY SCIENCE!

ID takes feasable avenues for research and tacks on a whole relgious agenda to affirm some asshole's shaky understanding of faith, earning it a well deserved Check Minus

NOMA'AM for the win

Or the Hoser proof:

- Liberals are faggots.

- I don't like faggots.

- Fox News tells me that liberals are all hung up on science.

- SCIENCE IS FOR FAGGOTS

I didn't say any of that regarding this post...even though it is true that Liberals are in fact ok with 2 dudes jamming each other up the shit pipe and spreading their queer propaganda all over the media for our children to absorb....Aside from that, I really don't have an argument here.

My argument is that all of you dickheads and your teen angst are as bad as the Christians were during the crusades. You assholes try to spread your brand of bullshit all over the place with as much fervor as possible. Now when you little pimple poppers are questioned you immediately jump to your pseudo intellectual side and start throwing "knowledge" hand grenades all over the place.

Fact is, you little fuckwipes are nothing more than a bunch of turds educated by the internet. I do not speak of all the turds here...just a select few of abrasive pseudo intellectual punks. I have a hard time taking into consideration the opinions of kids who still live at home with Mommy and Daddy, or are at college living off of Mommy and Daddy's money.

So if I seemed abrasive in my initial post, that was simply not my intention. My intention was to question YOUR beliefs. My beliefs are always questioned here, so I questioned yours. I get jumped all over by a bunch of pre-pubescent kids and druggies for questioning them, and now I'M in the wrong? That's Fascism. Look that up on your internets.

Sorry if you were annoyed, next time I'll take your feelings into consideration BEFORE I act like an individual.

Annoyed =/= unimpressed.

No one will ever have PROOF of god/or no god.

But they have NO proof to show that islam, judism, hiduism, christianity, or any pagan religion ANY religion (especially with rituals) are the true.

Even if the whole word believed that there is atleast SOMETHING that created life, it IS proven that that no "god" created life in six days or out a drop of milk or a stone dropped by a crow. It took several million years. and there is NO proof tha we are alone in the universe. More reason to believe (look up to the sky at night) there is some other life out there.

and how long till those religious groups will start to push even those who believe in SOMETHING to believe in their brand of something?

what created this something that created life? and why couldn't it have left it's creation to evolve? Those will be the next questions if atheism no longer exist. The questions never end.

I couldn't agree more.

Sorry If I offended you DestroyYouAlot, but I am simply speaking my mind. That post was not directed at you in any way, by the way. It was directed at a select few abrasive cocks that regularly post anything and everything in order to live up to the status quo of their highly mis-informed and angst ridden counterparts. One of which I consider you not to be.

Amen.

its called symbiogenesis
ask Lynn Margulis, or James Lovelock
or any other neo darwinism for that matter...
you see darwin had a lot of interesting and promising theories about evolution, except for the fact that random mutation could never occur frequently enough to merit the complete physiological and genetic change which took place, not to mention the vast diversity of species in the same genus.
Through millions of years of microbiotic symbiosis, we see the development and evolution of cell from prokaryotes, to eukaryotes: different bacteria worked in conjuction, benefitting one another to form altogether new species, which, in turn would be able to survive the changing pressures in the environment; rising carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere? the host cell could not survive on its own, so in comes an "invasive" phyto or "blue green" bacteria to live in the host cell- remind you of anything? (chloroplast?). Too much C02 for the phyto bacteria? here comes the "invasive" proto mitochondrian bacteria, which depends on 02 to produce ATP, a vital chemical energy used for cell growth. what do they get out of the deal, and why are they sticking around within the host cell for so long? Bacteria reproduce "horizontally" in other words they borrow DNA from each other, so that they may adapt extremely quickly to chaning environments. The host cell provides them with that DNA within the neucleus. Thus we see the development from the prokaryotic cell with flagellum, to the eukaryotic cell with organelles, able to propell itself through its medium.

things to remember; the difference between symbiosis and symbiogenesis is that symbiosis occurs when two organisms exist together each providing a vital need for the other to survive, and symbiogenesis is when two organisms exist in dependence and cooperation for so long that they become a single species.

thus, we have the "theory" of symbiogenesis, based on factual scientific findings....

wow, god sure does take the complicated road for someone who can make things appear and dissapear with the snap of a finger....

edit thats supposed to say too much oxygen for the pyto bacteria you get they idea

Noted, and noted.