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returntothepit >> discuss >> your thoughts on the Census by Yeti on Apr 1,2010 10:45am
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toggletoggle post by Yeti at Apr 1,2010 10:45am
the fact that they are saying "your response is required by law" is fucking bullshit. i'm not doing it, i don't care, come after me.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Apr 1,2010 10:46am
scare tactic. its all for funding. the more people who do it...supposedly the more money our state gets for funding services that are just gonna be cut anyways. broke country is broke.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Apr 1,2010 11:07am
They used the census in the 40s to gather American japs and throw em in camps. Little fact they don't tell you.



toggletoggle post by Doomkid   at Apr 1,2010 11:08am
Yeti said[orig][quote]
the fact that they are saying "your response is required by law" is fucking bullshit. i'm not doing it, i don't care, come after me.


The Constitution mandates a census you fucking retard. Get counted or screw your community's chance for state and federal funding.



toggletoggle post by Doomkid   at Apr 1,2010 11:09am
It will also cost the federal government MORE if you don't fill it out.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Apr 1,2010 11:10am
lol @ calling yeti a retard.

He doesn't pay taxes either.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Apr 1,2010 11:12am
Doomkid said[orig][quote]
Yeti said[orig][quote]
the fact that they are saying "your response is required by law" is fucking bullshit. i'm not doing it, i don't care, come after me.


The Constitution mandates a census you fucking retard. Get counted or screw your community's chance for state and federal funding.


smoochie boochies



toggletoggle post by Doomkid   at Apr 1,2010 11:12am edited Apr 1,2010 11:13am
I did lol after I noticed the OP was Yeti, since I don't generally consider him a retard. This behavior is pointless and dumb though.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Apr 1,2010 11:14am
i will be not filling out the census due to sheer laziness and apathy.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 1,2010 11:14am
I have mine filled out, in an envelop and unmailed for the last 3 weeks. If this shit was THAT important they'd figure out a way for me to do it online like everything else important (EXCEPT REGISTERING TO VOTE!!!)



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Apr 1,2010 11:18am
It took me 2 seconds. I love the Latino / Negroe option.
I mean, my major complaint is that YOU CAN'T DO IT ONLINE YET.
IT'S 2010, WHAT THE FUCK?STILL WASTING PAPER, EH GOVT? WHY DONT YOU TAX US FOR NOT BEING GREEN, OH WAIT...



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Apr 1,2010 11:21am
not everyone has online access.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Apr 1,2010 11:22am
Theres ways to find out who doesn't.
Telepathically speaking, I thought you knew what I just posted.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 1,2010 11:23am
aril is 50% right as usual. I forgot to do it last night.granted i didn't open it until coast night either.i will do it tonight.if you don't do it they waste more money sending someone to your house.



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Apr 1,2010 11:23am
I returned mine. They could have done a better job promoting it though.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Apr 1,2010 11:23am
I think people don't wanna do stuff just because they should, and other people are doing it. You rebels. It takes 5minutes TOTAL, it really DOES help allocate funds, they're obviously not rounding up japs anymore.. but oh yeah, funding will PROBABLY get cut, so Why even bother trying to get it?

If you don't fill out yours, AND send it back, you have no right to complain about the governments allocation of resources. Bottom line. Just like voting, if you don't do it, you have no right to complain about politics.



toggletoggle post by MikeofdecrepitudE at Apr 1,2010 11:23am
Universal internet access for all.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Apr 1,2010 11:35am
ouchdrummer said[orig][quote]


If you don't fill out yours, AND send it back, you have no right to complain about the governments allocation of resources. Bottom line. Just like voting, if you don't do it, you have no right to complain about politics.



i have every right to complain about everything. much like voting, the census will do nothing to provide a positive affect on my standard of living.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Apr 1,2010 11:38am
right, especially if you DON'T FILL IT OUT.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Apr 1,2010 11:43am
ITT: Be a good American citizen or GTFO



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 1,2010 11:44am
it's part of the constitution.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Apr 1,2010 11:45am edited Apr 1,2010 11:46am
i have zero confidence in goverment entities. they already "allocated" my tax money to line the pockets of wall street/corporate goons and special interest groups. where was my census for all the goverment bailouts? i dont remember my opinion being requested then. so i dont see how it matters now.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Apr 1,2010 11:48am edited Apr 1,2010 11:49am
xmikex said[orig][quote]
I have mine filled out, in an envelop and unmailed for the last 3 weeks. If this shit was THAT important they'd figure out a way for me to do it online like everything else important (EXCEPT REGISTERING TO VOTE!!!)
I think this was a sarcastic comment, but in all seriousness, the amount of money the government would save by making the Census and voter registration online in paper and ink alone would be huge

EDIT: stopped at the quoted post before I read the rest of the thread...already discussed topic was already discussed



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Apr 1,2010 11:50am
FIMS, read Jesse venturas new book. It's awesome.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Apr 1,2010 11:51am
i'll have to pick it up... i been meaning to check out the show too but i dont know how to find it



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Apr 1,2010 11:52am
The show was pretty decent. Some episodes were meh but some were great. They renewed it for another season too.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Apr 1,2010 11:53am
is it on Discovery channel?



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Apr 1,2010 12:06pm
FuckIsMySignature said[orig][quote]
i have zero confidence in goverment entities. they already "allocated" my tax money to line the pockets of wall street/corporate goons and special interest groups. where was my census for all the goverment bailouts? i dont remember my opinion being requested then. so i dont see how it matters now.


i have little more faith in it that you do. But if you don't do things like this, how can you expect it to improve?
IE:
Hey our band sucks dick, people always say that we're sloppy when they see us play. I KNOW My band members don't practice, so why should I? Our bands gonna suck anyways?

You see? that logic just doesn't work, and yes that analogy is SORT OF relevant.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 1,2010 12:08pm
FuckIsMySignature said[orig][quote]
not everyone has online access.


www.holladaddy.com

You've got to get pretty close to the bottom of the barrel to find people without some kind of internetz these days.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Apr 1,2010 12:08pm
that's not true. I still know at least a half dozen decent people who don't have it.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Apr 1,2010 12:12pm
FuckIsMySignature said[orig][quote]
is it on Discovery channel?


trutv



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 1,2010 12:13pm
TEENAGE SUICIDE... DON'T DO IT



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 1,2010 12:13pm
ouchdrummer said[orig][quote]
that's not true. I still know at least a half dozen white people who don't have it.


Ran that through the racism filter. Hope you don't mind.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Apr 1,2010 12:54pm
Filling it out where my car is registered.
Lack of online submission is because they want your DNA from the paper.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Apr 1,2010 1:12pm
ouchdrummer said[orig][quote]
FuckIsMySignature said[orig][quote]
i have zero confidence in goverment entities. they already "allocated" my tax money to line the pockets of wall street/corporate goons and special interest groups. where was my census for all the goverment bailouts? i dont remember my opinion being requested then. so i dont see how it matters now.


i have little more faith in it that you do. But if you don't do things like this, how can you expect it to improve?
IE:
Hey our band sucks dick, people always say that we're sloppy when they see us play. I KNOW My band members don't practice, so why should I? Our bands gonna suck anyways?

You see? that logic just doesn't work, and yes that analogy is SORT OF relevant.


all i know is that it would take MAJOR changes in government to bring back my confidence enough to even bother submitting my opinion. we are probably not gonna see eye to eye on this so lets just agree to disagree.





toggletoggle post by Yeti at Apr 1,2010 1:14pm
FuckIsMySignature said[orig][quote]
i have zero confidence in goverment entities. they already "allocated" my tax money to line the pockets of wall street/corporate goons and special interest groups. where was my census for all the goverment bailouts? i dont remember my opinion being requested then. so i dont see how it matters now.


bingo. that sums up a lot of the reasons why i don't give a flying fuck about this shit.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Apr 1,2010 1:15pm
i agree that you're an idiot. How about that, homo?



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Apr 1,2010 1:15pm
april fools, i love you.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Apr 1,2010 1:17pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
lol @ calling yeti a retard.

He doesn't pay taxes either.


i pay the taxes i have no choice to pay. for example, i pay income tax every day, it's automatically taken out of my paycheck. i just don't file every year because i don't see the point. i have only broken even since i started working.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Apr 1,2010 1:21pm
Doomkid said[orig][quote]
I did lol after I noticed the OP was Yeti, since I don't generally consider him a retard. This behavior is pointless and dumb though.


i don't disagree why people would think it's stupid to feel this way. i just have absolutely no faith in anything related to any government, so i don't care what happens. we are going to be fucked in the ass no matter what we do, so might as well make things difficult for them.



toggletoggle post by Doomkid   at Apr 1,2010 1:27pm
What is your proposed alternate to government? When has any human society functioned without it? (I'm including more informal tribal hierarchies in my definition of government here)



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Apr 1,2010 1:30pm
India is starting their first official census to get info on their 1,000,000,000+ population, they're going to try to collect photos and biometrics on everyone over 15. At least we don't need to submit biometrics.

Tony, you do pay taxes, you file to get a refund for the income tax you've paid. I'm not saying you should file, but you're probably missing out on money that's yours. There's little chance you'll actually end up owing more.

Everybody has different ideas about the government...your taxes are used for absolutely everything from paying local cops to buying AK-47s for corrupt SA militias...but for but federal money out there (from your taxes) that funds public works projects and they use the census to allocate it. Public works = roads, libraries, schools, infrastructure.

So not filling out the census is like not voting.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 1,2010 1:32pm
Yeti said[orig][quote]
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
lol @ calling yeti a retard.

He doesn't pay taxes either.


i pay the taxes i have no choice to pay. for example, i pay income tax every day, it's automatically taken out of my paycheck. i just don't file every year because i don't see the point. i have only broken even since i started working.
ITT, yeti goes to jail



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Apr 1,2010 1:34pm
related - anybody see the new leaked CIA document? your tax dollars are also being used to manipulate NATO populations...

http://file.wikileaks.org/file/cia-afghanistan.pdf
26. Mar. 2010: CIA report into shoring up Afghan war support in Western Europe, 11 Mar 2010
This classified CIA analysis from March, outlines possible PR-strategies to shore up public support in Germany and France for a continued war in Afghanistan. After the dutch government fell on the issue of dutch troops in Afghanistan last month, the CIA became worried that similar events could happen in the countries that post the third and fourth largest troop contingents to the ISAF-mission. The proposed PR strategies focus on pressure points that have been identified within these countries. For France it is the sympathy of the public for Afghan refugees and women. For Germany it is the fear of the consequences of defeat (drugs, more refugees, terrorism) as well as for Germany's standing in the NATO. The memo is an recipe for the targeted manipulation of public opinion in two NATO ally countries, written by the CIA. It is classified as Confidential / No Foreign Nationals.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Apr 1,2010 2:08pm
Repost.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Apr 1,2010 3:13pm edited Apr 1,2010 3:14pm
after doing my own research, i have to rescind my previous statements of not doing the census, i am a strong supporter of all things Constitutional, and as Doomkid pointed out, it is in there. I can't pick and choose what i will follow even if it goes against what i believe. however i do stand by my issues with the personal information they "require". why are my name and phone number necessary? they already have it, why do i need to keep reporting to the government?



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Apr 1,2010 3:16pm
yeh,i'm not putting my name and phone number. Name they have, phone they can get if they wanted to, but you know.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Apr 1,2010 3:17pm
ouchdrummer said[orig][quote]
i agree that you're an idiot. How about that, homo?


lulzy.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Apr 1,2010 3:18pm
Because the government is compartmentalized. The left doesn't know what th right hand is doing.
And the CIA runs it all and controls various aspects of the government. You really want to know what's going on? Meet me in a smokey car at a show to find out more. no homo.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Apr 1,2010 3:19pm
arktouros said[orig][quote]
yeh,i'm not putting my name and phone number. Name they have, phone they can get if they wanted to, but you know.


i wonder though, is filling out the form "all or nothing"?



toggletoggle post by pam   at Apr 1,2010 4:52pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
They used the census in the 40s to gather American japs and throw em in camps. Little fact they don't tell you.


Little fact every fear-monger-Big-Brother-OMG jackoff like you automatically regurgitates whenever the census comes around.

OMG TEH GOVERNMENTS.

Sorry, I'm in a cuntier than usual mood today. Carry on.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Apr 1,2010 4:53pm
I'm not anti-census.

Just stating shit they dont
throw in history books.

Carry on.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Apr 1,2010 5:00pm
Also, why constitutes me as a fear monger? Because I post alternate theories on what is propagandized by the government? If you think I'm a republican, you're mistaken.
If you think I'm a nut job, you're kidding yourself. I am a concerned American; it is quite apparent our country is falling apart. Keep hiding in your box and not thinking out of it, Cunt Dracula!



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Apr 1,2010 5:23pm
hahaha Pam appears, rips a new asshole, and vanishes into the night.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Apr 1,2010 5:30pm
She can't handle the truth.



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at Apr 1,2010 5:34pm
all I got was a warning notice saying I should have filled mine out, never got the actual census... better luck reaching me in 2020, USA!



toggletoggle post by Bobnomaamrooney at Apr 1,2010 5:55pm
I filled out my race as doublenigger.



toggletoggle post by Doomkid   at Apr 1,2010 6:01pm
If you've only gotten the notice you missed it then somebody is messing with your mail. They sent out a notification about the census 3 weeks before you should have gotten the census itself.

2 letters stole could be cause for concern.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Apr 1,2010 6:22pm
Bobnomaamrooney said[orig][quote]
I filled out my race as doublenigger.


lulz



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Apr 1,2010 7:37pm
arktouros said[orig][quote]
At least we don't need to submit biometrics.


Fuck. I was wrong. I just remembered X-Files.



toggletoggle post by TheRidersofDoom  at Apr 1,2010 10:20pm
It is only required to fill out how many people live there that is all. Everything else is extra frills the government doesn't need to know for anything.

also, I find it scary they ask what kind of spic you are. Theeeeee only reason they care is because they want to know where all the different ones live in case of a disease outbreak or war with one of the countries (so they know where to round up all the Venezuelans)



toggletoggle post by blessed offal at Apr 1,2010 10:23pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
lol @ calling yeti a retard.

He doesn't pay taxes either.


paying taxes is for communists and people with money.



toggletoggle post by Negrotic Christ at Apr 1,2010 10:40pm



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Apr 2,2010 11:04am
xmikex said[orig][quote]
ouchdrummer said[orig][quote]
i agree that you're an idiot. How about that, homo?


lulzy.

______________________________________________
[Apr 1,2010 1:15pm - ouchdrummer "" edit]
april fools, i love you.
_________________________



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Apr 2,2010 11:07am
wtf?



toggletoggle post by pam   at Apr 2,2010 11:48am
Filled mine out. I thought about writing SUCK IT, ARIL on there but held off.




toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Apr 2,2010 1:21pm
lulzy-lulz-for-realzies



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Apr 2,2010 1:27pm
Suck what?



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Apr 2,2010 2:08pm
Pam. lol. I told you I'm not anti census. As a matter of fact, mine was destroyed from the first rainstorm and I called the local census office to have them resend it.
OMG ARIL GIVING INTO BIG BROTHER? You treat me like a deformed version if Hoser, Cunt Dracula.



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at Apr 2,2010 2:41pm
Doomkid said[orig][quote]
If you've only gotten the notice you missed it then somebody is messing with your mail. They sent out a notification about the census 3 weeks before you should have gotten the census itself.

2 letters stole could be cause for concern.


I don't know if my roommate got to it before I could or what you postulate, but either way I'm a busy man and they factor busy men into their analysis when compiling demographics.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Apr 2,2010 4:02pm
This thread is waaaayy too long for me to read, but I was a little peaved that as a Jewish Italian my only option was to check "White"


I'm sure I really fit in as your normal everyday white with that cross breeding there.

Meanwhile, "Alaskan" Inuits get their own box. WTF.



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