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returntothepit >> discuss >> New Anti-Piracy system to start next week? by North Korean Unicorn on Feb 27,2013 9:01am
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toggletoggle post by North Korean Unicorn at Feb 27,2013 9:01am
Just read this the other day (old news) took it with a grain of salt, then heard them talking about it on NPR this morning. It's a six strike rule it seems as far as giving you warnings, having you watch a 5 minute video on copyrights, slowing down your internet. They said on NPR that if you try to file something that states you weren't doing anything wrong it will cost you $35 and they will look into it.

http://www.dailydot.com/news/copyright-alerts-system-launch-six-strikes/



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 27,2013 9:15am
I heard that same exact thing on NPR and looked for info. The mention on NPR was only a few seconds long. When I looked online all the info was 4 months old. This was a day after I found someone had broken into my wireless network and was doing who knows what. Thankfully, they were on a legacy connection that couldn't do much and couldn't get to my servers without other passwords.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 27,2013 9:20am
Did the people that made portal make this video?


bennyhillifier



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at Feb 27,2013 9:29am



toggletoggle post by shutup fagget at Feb 27,2013 9:59am
Alx_Casket said[orig][quote]
http://torrentfreak.com/six-strikes-anti-piracy-scheme-starts-130225/

shutup fagget



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 27,2013 10:06am



toggletoggle post by North Korean Unicorn at Feb 27,2013 10:08am
My wireless connection is locked, but should double check it anyways. I dont do the P2P thing, but what does it do to sites like mediafire n such where you just download the file, I wonder if that will be affected as well?Comcast hasn't said what they will do yet, and like the article up above will they eventually use legal action on individuals?



toggletoggle post by ÆRK at Feb 27,2013 10:34am


You shouldn't have much of anything to worry about. Read the articles. It's more of an educational program for casual users. The best way around it is not downloading RIAA or MPAA files which most of us can live without. Netflix and Hulu accounts are pennies a month.

Also it is largely targeted toward BitTorrent traffic. HTTP and FTP traffic (ie Mediafire) is so ubiquitous it's almost impossible to monitor for blacklisting. Only 5 ISPs have signed on and if you do recieve letters I urge people to change to another ISP, to show them it's bad business. Legal action is far off, and is a dangerous game for companies to get involved in if they continue to target casual customers.

In the big picture, it's just another futile attempt to lower piracy rates that can't possibly work for them.

There's also easy workarounds for people that insist on torrenting targeted files:
http://torrentfreak.com/which-vpn-provider...ly-take-anonymity-seriously-111007/




toggletoggle post by North Korean Unicorn at Feb 27,2013 10:56am
I did read them again, was just making sure I guess, I dont do torrent files and already netflix so I guess I am good.

Also the music in that video made me think of those 90's phone sex call commericals that came on late at night.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 27,2013 11:15am
Comcast said they will do it. they don't haven't said what.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 27,2013 11:18am
I work for a company who makes equipment that can do this. They could be reading what I'm typing right now. If you think there is a single difference between monitoring Torrent traffic and HTTP/FTP or anything else, you are sadly mistaken. My company already does things like that for xtian colleges and people watch porno from porn sites.



toggletoggle post by ÆRK at Feb 27,2013 11:18am
amazing.



toggletoggle post by ÆRK at Feb 27,2013 11:22am
for monitoring closed networks, yeah. that takes up a good chunk of my day. and i would think there is a difference when the files aren't obvious names which happens more on http. and i was saying amazing to your typo. that's a good one



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 27,2013 11:27am
that is pretty bad. Anyhow, in an age with 80GB piles to dedicated servers that get fed screened info from flow-based architecture switches, all the is done automatically. They don't check for names/etc.. they check for signatures. That's what this CAS thing is doing too. It's not looking for names, it's looking for digital finger prints of it's copyrighted materials.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 27,2013 11:29am
The only think that P2P gives them is the ability to request peers that are doing stuff and downloading the data to look for signatures themselves without putting in hardware into the ISPs. However, the government did put similar tap lines into ISPs.



toggletoggle post by ÆRK at Feb 27,2013 11:30am
there is a difference, the company that is collecting IP addresses for the MPAA and RIAA are monitoring P2P networks only. the equipment your company makes (packet shapers?) can't look at the whole internet (right?) and if they are only sniffing out torrent trackers and peers, they can only drag out an IP address and that's all the info they can get, they have to send it to the ISPs who will send the letter to the person who was leased that IP. looking at other traffic besides all that is a huge job that i don't think they can easily just do.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Feb 27,2013 11:32am
Only private torrent sites are real.



toggletoggle post by ÆRK at Feb 27,2013 11:32am
so they're looking for checksums on their copyrighted content? how is that a sure thing? each file that is encoded differently or changed at all would have a different checksum.



toggletoggle post by ÆRK at Feb 27,2013 11:34am
private trackers do add protection. and if you encrypt your torrent traffic with your bittorrent client, that's an extra bonus. they could not look for the checksum of your file if your packets are encrypted.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Feb 27,2013 11:35am
Honestly, I just wish file sharing was IRC-based. So much easier.



toggletoggle post by ÆRK at Feb 27,2013 11:40am
direct connect was awesome. irc is still good but you have to be elite and i just don't care to stay up until 4am anymore to get to the dark corner of the internet and go to a chatroom. torrents are the only way to get and distribute content to more than 8 people.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Feb 27,2013 11:43am
Direct Connect was great, especially on college campuses 10 years ago.

torrents are obviously the more modern way to do it, though I still don't find them too trustworthy. The private torrent site I'm part of is great. Not supposed to mention the name outside of it cuz they'll haxor you.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 27,2013 10:41pm
ÆRK said[orig][quote]
packet shapers?


IDS/IDN and flow based hardware. There are a lot of other terms that I'm not sure about right now.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 27,2013 10:43pm
ÆRK said[orig][quote]
so they're looking for checksums on their copyrighted content? how is that a sure thing? each file that is encoded differently or changed at all would have a different checksum.

Not check sums, digital signatures like how sound hound works.
http://everythingelsematterstoo.blogspot.com/2010/11/how-shazam-works.html



toggletoggle post by ITT at Feb 28,2013 7:28am
a bunch of faggets getting scared because they might have to actually drop a few bucks on a cd or dvd for once



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 28,2013 9:31am
they still sell dvds?



toggletoggle post by ITT at Feb 28,2013 11:17am
I dont know, i will see if i can download some info on the subject



toggletoggle post by ÆRK at Feb 28,2013 1:20pm
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
ÆRK said[orig][quote]
so they're looking for checksums on their copyrighted content? how is that a sure thing? each file that is encoded differently or changed at all would have a different checksum.

Not check sums, digital signatures like how sound hound works.
http://everythingelsematterstoo.blogspot.com/2010/11/how-shazam-works.html



that's pretty sweet. BUT DOES IT HOLD UP IN COURT??????//////



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 28,2013 1:43pm
Should any of this stuff?



toggletoggle post by MASONIC OVERLORD at Feb 28,2013 10:56pm
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
I heard that same exact thing on NPR and looked for info. The mention on NPR was only a few seconds long. When I looked online all the info was 4 months old. This was a day after I found someone had broken into my wireless network and was doing who knows what. Thankfully, they were on a legacy connection that couldn't do much and couldn't get to my servers without other passwords.


JUST DOWNLOAD A BUNCH OF GAY PRON AND THEN YOU'RE PROTECTED



toggletoggle post by yoda troll at Feb 28,2013 11:55pm
MASONIC%20OVERLORD said[orig][quote]
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
I heard that same exact thing on NPR and looked for info. The mention on NPR was only a few seconds long. When I looked online all the info was 4 months old. This was a day after I found someone had broken into my wireless network and was doing who knows what. Thankfully, they were on a legacy connection that couldn't do much and couldn't get to my servers without other passwords.


JUST DOWNLOAD A BUNCH OF GAY PRON AND THEN YOU'RE PROTECTED


shutup fagget you will



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 1,2013 7:06am
I stopped doing porno since red tube has so much Gay porno



toggletoggle post by Not a faggot, and I'll beat your ass if you say ... its a banana ... at Mar 1,2013 7:43am

I stopped doing porno since red tube has so much Gay porno


I didn't know you did porno. What movies were you in?

And about this gay porno. We need samples. For science.

Can you link some?



toggletoggle post by shut the fuck up faggot at Mar 1,2013 8:53am
Not%20a%20faggot,%20and%20I said[orig][quote]

I stopped doing porno since red tube has so much Gay porno


I didn't know you did porno. What movies were you in?

And about this gay porno. We need samples. For science.

Can you link some?
shut the fuck up faggot



toggletoggle post by Not A Faggot at Mar 1,2013 9:22am
Call me a faggot again and I'll be forced to wrestle you to the ground, accidentally pulling you out of those tight jeans...



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 5,2013 1:30pm



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 5,2013 1:30pm



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 5,2013 1:31pm


Alerts 1 & 2: Information-focused alerts will provide customers with details about the alleged infringement. Customers will be able to click on and dismiss the first in-browser notice by themselves. For the second alert, any household member with a comcast.net user ID will have to log in to acknowledge and remove the in-browser alert.

Alerts 3 & 4: Warning-focused alerts make the language about the repeated allegations of copyright infringement more pronounced and urgent. The household’s primary account holder must acknowledge receipt of these alerts by logging in to his or her Comcast account.

Alerts 5 & 6: Mitigation-focused alerts are aimed at engaging the customer in addressing the repeated alleged infringements by providing the customer with a 14-day window to submit an appeal to the American Arbitration Association (AAA). If the customer believes the alerts were served in error, the customer can file for an independent review. If the customer does not file the appeal, after 14 days a mitigation alert is applied in the form of a persistent in-browser alert that requires a customer to call our Comcast Security Assurance (CSA) team. The CSA team provides further education and information about copyright infringement and only they have the ability to remove the in-browser alert from the customer’s web browser. If an appeal is filed, then the transmission of alerts is suspended until the review is complete. If the appeal prevails, then the alert history is reset, and all previous alerts are removed. If the appeal does not prevail, the mitigation alert is applied to the customer’s service, and a call is required to CSA.



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