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returntothepit >> discuss >> Animal Rights Terrorist groups by Yeti on Jan 20,2006 3:27pm
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toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jan 20,2006 3:27pm
whats with these jerkoffs and why are they not treated as terrorists? they commit acts of terrorism, yet they are given a slap on the wrist. they should be deported or executed. i understand why they are upset about certain animal treatments, but blowing up someones car or burning their house down doesnt prove anything, or validate their point. they are always the most smug and pretentious assholes with no real basis for argument, just unsubstantiated propaganda about horrific vivisection. to all you vegans and animal rights activists: you dont win friends with salad.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 20,2006 3:31pm
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/01/20/ecoterror.indictments/index.html

one thing though... undercurrent laws, you can be charged with economic terrorism and be coulpable for $millions of lost revenue for a business if you DoS their servers...

I never got the "it's all about saving the enviorment" and then burning down some place. it's like the "let's save the lives by shooting abortion doctors and killing girls going there"

humans are pretty stupid.



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Jan 20,2006 3:35pm
hahahaha, they blew up SUVs....that's awesome. I don't think they should be killing people, but releasing animals and blowing things up, what's wrong with that?



toggletoggle post by Hungta‘bleed at Jan 20,2006 3:35pm
the_reverend said:



I never got the "it's all about saving the enviorment" and then burning down some place. it's like the "let's save the lives by shooting abortion doctors and killing girls going there"

humans are pretty stupid.

brilliant.





toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Jan 20,2006 3:35pm
the ELA is the largest terrorist threat in America I believe.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 20,2006 3:43pm
someone should kill greenpeace too. I mean if I want to drive my SUV into a whales asshole, who are they to ride their stupid boat along side and try to stop me>?



toggletoggle post by DomesticTerror at Jan 20,2006 7:59pm edited Jan 20,2006 8:05pm
Where does the USA fall on the terrorist test?


A possible DSM-like list of criteria for narcissistic organizations or groups: Five (or more) of the following criteria must be met:

The group as a whole, or members of the group - acting as such and by virtue of their association and affiliation with the group - feel grandiose and self-important (e.g., they exaggerate the group's achievements and talents to the point of lying, demand to be recognized as superior - simply for belonging to the group and without commensurate achievement).
The group as a whole, or members of the group - acting as such and by virtue of their association and affiliation with the group - are obsessed with group fantasies of unlimited success, fame, fearsome power or omnipotence, unequalled brilliance, bodily beauty or performance, or ideal, everlasting, all-conquering ideals or political theories.
The group as a whole, or members of the group - acting as such and by virtue of their association and affiliation with the group - are firmly convinced that the group is unique and, being special, can only be understood by, should only be treated by, or associate with, other special or unique, or high-status groups (or institutions).
The group as a whole, or members of the group - acting as such and by virtue of their association and affiliation with the group - require excessive admiration, adulation, attention and affirmation - or, failing that, wish to be feared and to be notorious (narcissistic supply).
The group as a whole, or members of the group - acting as such and by virtue of their association and affiliation with the group - feel entitled. They expect unreasonable or special and favorable priority treatment. They demand automatic and full compliance with expectations. They rarely accept responsibility for their actions ("alloplastic defenses"). This often leads to anti-social behavior, cover-ups, and criminal activities on a mass scale.
The group as a whole, or members of the group - acting as such and by virtue of their association and affiliation with the group - are "interpersonally exploitative", i.e., use others to achieve their own ends. This often leads to anti-social behavior, cover-ups, and criminal activities on a mass scale.
The group as a whole, or members of the group - acting as such and by virtue of their association and affiliation with the group - are devoid of empathy. They are unable or unwilling to identify with or acknowledge the feelings and needs of other groups. This often leads to anti- social behavior, cover-ups, and criminal activities on a mass scale.
The group as a whole, or members of the group - acting as such and by virtue of their association and affiliation with the group - are constantly envious of others or believes that they feel the same about them. This often leads to anti-social behavior, cover-ups, and criminal activities on a mass scale.
The group as a whole, or members of the group - acting as such and by virtue of their association and affiliation with the group - are arrogant and sport haughty behaviors or attitudes coupled with rage when frustrated, contradicted, punished, limited, or confronted. This often leads to anti-social behavior, cover-ups, and criminal activities on a mass scale.

if this isn't a good description of americans, then i don't know what is.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Jan 20,2006 8:03pm
Anti-christian terrorist
Grim slaughterer of life
Let's massacre the Christians
And worship global death!!!

-Terrorist, satanist, terrorist, satanist

The black satanic hellcommand
The Architects of death
Suicide of sacrifice
They (all) fulfilled their oath of hell

You sow the seeds of (pure) hatred
And position the words from all Gods (TO DEATH!!!!!!!!)

-Terrorist, satanist, terrorist, satanist

The glorification of evil
You're stigmatized by Hell
A purgatorial blessing
Let's slay and slay again!!!



toggletoggle post by CNV at Jan 20,2006 8:49pm
Anyone that blows up a cosmetics building is a hero in my book



toggletoggle post by CNV at Jan 20,2006 8:55pm
I just watched some show about Ecoterrorists that was great!!

More terrorism please!!!



toggletoggle post by CNV at Jan 20,2006 8:57pm
according to the USA every country except Israel is capable of terrorism

hahaha



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Jan 20,2006 11:39pm
HailTheLeaf said:
hahahaha, they blew up SUVs....that's awesome. I don't think they should be killing people, but releasing animals and blowing things up, what's wrong with that?


I hope you are being sarcastic, but if not:

You are a fag. This is what you like (according to your profile):
Down, Fear Factory, Clutch, Eyehategod.

SUVs are gay, but freeing minks is gayer. I haven't heard your band, but to make a comment like that shows that you utilize breakdowns, sing-alongs, and other homo-erotic emo-hardcoristic gayness. I will be sure put some additional effort into next hunting season on your behalf.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Jan 21,2006 12:21am
to all you vegans and animal rights activists: you dont win friends with salad.>>




toggletoggle post by timmy porphyria at Jan 21,2006 12:29am
to all you vegans and animal rights activists: you dont win friends with salad.>>

don't throw us all in one boat just because you don't agree with another persons actions. As a vegetarian and an "animal rights rights activist" I take great insult to this statement. You can have your own opinions, but keep the shit talking to yourself. Don't come on hear and post stupid shit and look like a douche bag because you don't have the will power to put down the burger and pick up a carrot stick like so many other fatties in this country.




toggletoggle post by INFECT  at Jan 21,2006 11:26am
i cant fucking stand the attitude that because we live in the US and it is possible to live life in an utterly wasteful and unsustainable fashion, that it is perfectly alright to do so. Our current way of life is only possible because of wholesale rape of the environment, torture of animals, and war. This system is headed for collapse, possible very soon, and anyone who doesnt recognize this is blind, ignorant, or too complacent to give a fuck. What with the USAs unquestioned military and economic superiority terrorism is the only option left to fight this system. Hail terrorism!!! especially in defense of our earth and animals.



toggletoggle post by INFECT  at Jan 21,2006 11:33am
one other thing, as to one possible way this world order will meet its end, we have already seen wars of aggression conducted to secure resources for our ever increasing needs (remember, capitalism is based on growth, no matter how impossible that growth is to sustain) China and India, the two largest population centers and fastest growing economies on earth, are industrializing their societys and owning more and more automobiles, in essence, becoming more and more like the U.S. What happens when there are three nuclear powers competing for a dwindling supply of resources?



toggletoggle post by xsocialmonstrosityx  at Jan 21,2006 12:44pm
INFECT said:
i cant fucking stand the attitude that because we live in the US and it is possible to live life in an utterly wasteful and unsustainable fashion, that it is perfectly alright to do so. Our current way of life is only possible because of wholesale rape of the environment, torture of animals, and war. This system is headed for collapse, possible very soon, and anyone who doesnt recognize this is blind, ignorant, or too complacent to give a fuck. What with the USAs unquestioned military and economic superiority terrorism is the only option left to fight this system. Hail terrorism!!! especially in defense of our earth and animals.


Thank you for saying this before I had to!

As for the ALF and the ELF, I fully support them even though I don't agree 100% with all their tactics. But honestly, in a world where more and more people are becoming so... what word am I looking for here... oblivious maybe? sometimes you need drastic methods to get the message out there. Yeah, you could organize a black bloc and go march somewhere, but that's only going to go so far before the day is done or you're taken into custody until the protest is over. Woo, a lot acomplished there.

Random: this is funny and true! http://www.sinkers.org/posters/169kjobs/169000newjobs.jpg



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Jan 21,2006 12:50pm edited Jan 21,2006 1:12pm
largefreakatzero said:
HailTheLeaf said:
hahahaha, they blew up SUVs....that's awesome. I don't think they should be killing people, but releasing animals and blowing things up, what's wrong with that?


I hope you are being sarcastic, but if not:

You are a fag. This is what you like (according to your profile):
Down, Fear Factory, Clutch, Eyehategod.

SUVs are gay, but freeing minks is gayer. I haven't heard your band, but to make a comment like that shows that you utilize breakdowns, sing-alongs, and other homo-erotic emo-hardcoristic gayness. I will be sure put some additional effort into next hunting season on your behalf.


Actually, for once I wasn't being sarcastic...animals shouldn't be used to test anything, and I enjoy blowing things up..it's fun. I didn't know females could be fags...What do my musical tastes have to do with this? Nothing...unless you want to get into lyrics which have definately helped shape my political views...you're obviously confused by those bands since none of them are emo or hardcore. At least you hunt, that's alot better than buying meat at a store...in the woods a deer has a chance to run away..to bad you can't eat any of the fish you catch because of mercury poisoning from power plant pollution....



toggletoggle post by pam   at Jan 21,2006 12:54pm
ooo this thread is dramatic.



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Jan 21,2006 12:54pm
CNV said:
Anyone that blows up a cosmetics building is a hero in my book


hell yeah, I'd rather blow up Exxon/Mobil though



toggletoggle post by xsocialmonstrosityx  at Jan 21,2006 12:58pm
largefreakatzero said:
HailTheLeaf said:
hahahaha, they blew up SUVs....that's awesome. I don't think they should be killing people, but releasing animals and blowing things up, what's wrong with that?


I hope you are being sarcastic, but if not:

You are a fag. This is what you like (according to your profile):
Down, Fear Factory, Clutch, Eyehategod.

SUVs are gay, but freeing minks is gayer. I haven't heard your band, but to make a comment like that shows that you utilize breakdowns, sing-alongs, and other homo-erotic emo-hardcoristic gayness. I will be sure put some additional effort into next hunting season on your behalf.


Pinion owns. I can hear them practicing everytime I go to visit the drummers wife :] Total sludge, amazing- definitely not emo at all.

PS HailTheLeaf - Hey Sam, didn't know you were on the board as well (it's Carolyn)



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Jan 21,2006 1:00pm
INFECT said:
i cant fucking stand the attitude that because we live in the US and it is possible to live life in an utterly wasteful and unsustainable fashion, that it is perfectly alright to do so. Our current way of life is only possible because of wholesale rape of the environment, torture of animals, and war. This system is headed for collapse, possible very soon, and anyone who doesnt recognize this is blind, ignorant, or too complacent to give a fuck. What with the USAs unquestioned military and economic superiority terrorism is the only option left to fight this system. Hail terrorism!!! especially in defense of our earth and animals.


couldn't have said it better myself...I can't wait for the collapse of this shithole society, it can't happen fast enough. fuck oil, fuck factory farms, and fuck your fake economy. No one was born here to keep taking ang taking and never give back, it's not the way the earth works.



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Jan 21,2006 1:03pm
INFECT said:
one other thing, as to one possible way this world order will meet its end, we have already seen wars of aggression conducted to secure resources for our ever increasing needs (remember, capitalism is based on growth, no matter how impossible that growth is to sustain) China and India, the two largest population centers and fastest growing economies on earth, are industrializing their societys and owning more and more automobiles, in essence, becoming more and more like the U.S. What happens when there are three nuclear powers competing for a dwindling supply of resources?


The U.S. has already thought of that, that's why we've been building up our military presence around China's coasts..we plan to bomb eachother to death over the last drops of oil...we're so smart....



toggletoggle post by eddie  at Jan 21,2006 1:05pm edited Jan 21,2006 1:06pm
HailTheLeaf said:
CNV said:
Anyone that blows up a cosmetics building is a hero in my book


hell yeah, I'd rather blow up Exxon/Mobil though


ever hear of insurance? The only people you're really hurting are the poor workers just trying to get by.

"edit spelling"



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Jan 21,2006 1:16pm
eddie said:
HailTheLeaf said:
CNV said:
Anyone that blows up a cosmetics building is a hero in my book


hell yeah, I'd rather blow up Exxon/Mobil though


ever hear of insurance? The only people you're really hurting are the poor workers just trying to get by.

"edit spelling"


come on, I would wait until everyone is out of the building...except maybe the CEO, president, etc...and if you're dumb enough to work for a company that evil, that's your problem



toggletoggle post by DomesticTerror at Jan 21,2006 1:20pm
i like where this thread is turning!



toggletoggle post by eddie  at Jan 21,2006 1:21pm
HailTheLeaf said:
eddie said:
HailTheLeaf said:
CNV said:
Anyone that blows up a cosmetics building is a hero in my book


hell yeah, I'd rather blow up Exxon/Mobil though


ever hear of insurance? The only people you're really hurting are the poor workers just trying to get by.

"edit spelling"


come on, I would wait until everyone is out of the building...except maybe the CEO, president, etc...and if you're dumb enough to work for a company that evil, that's your problem



i was talking about that they'd be out of work.



toggletoggle post by DomesticTerror at Jan 21,2006 1:32pm
the only difference between radical activist groups and the US government is that the government has access to billions of dollars, automatic weapons, and Bradley tanks.
...ya got that neoconservative bovine america?



toggletoggle post by CNV at Jan 21,2006 1:39pm
I could care less if they are vegans or not as long as there is corporate buildings being blown sky high I am happy

Burn baby burn



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Jan 21,2006 2:08pm
DomesticTerror said:
the only difference between radical activist groups and the US government is that the government has access to billions of dollars, automatic weapons, and Bradley tanks.
...ya got that neoconservative bovine america?


indeed...and corporate sponsors...



toggletoggle post by diamond_dave  at Jan 21,2006 5:59pm
this is great



toggletoggle post by ryanfromhbbsi at Jan 22,2006 12:28am
HailTheLeaf said:


At least you hunt, that's alot better than buying meat at a store...in the woods a deer has a chance to run away..to bad you can't eat any of the fish you catch because of mercury poisoning from power plant pollution....


ok first of all, he probably buys meat and hunts. second, i eat the fish i catch all the time. some fish absorb mercury at different rates. tuna ranks one of the worst fish for it. perch and trout rank higher up on the safe scale. every winter we're on the ice of staffordville lake chasing tipups and pulling up between 6-15 fish every time we go out. if mercurys a real problem, ill be able to poke a hole in my foot and make a thermometer by now. note that i wouldnt eat fish out of any river or lake downstream from boston, springfield, woostah, or any highly populated slimehole like that. northeast CT and up north are fine.




toggletoggle post by dwellingsickness at Jan 22,2006 7:33am
I had to put down my venison to read this thread, damn you people



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Jan 22,2006 4:28pm
ryanfromhbbsi said:
HailTheLeaf said:


At least you hunt, that's alot better than buying meat at a store...in the woods a deer has a chance to run away..to bad you can't eat any of the fish you catch because of mercury poisoning from power plant pollution....


ok first of all, he probably buys meat and hunts. second, i eat the fish i catch all the time. some fish absorb mercury at different rates. tuna ranks one of the worst fish for it. perch and trout rank higher up on the safe scale. every winter we're on the ice of staffordville lake chasing tipups and pulling up between 6-15 fish every time we go out. if mercurys a real problem, ill be able to poke a hole in my foot and make a thermometer by now. note that i wouldnt eat fish out of any river or lake downstream from boston, springfield, woostah, or any highly populated slimehole like that. northeast CT and up north are fine.



I go up to NH every summer and haven't found a safe place to fish and actually eat what I catch yet...there are mercury warnings everywhere...



toggletoggle post by ryanfromhbbsi at Jan 22,2006 4:55pm
now that i think about it, you are probably downwind from buffalo NY which is very industrial. i can imagine the filth coming in from there



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