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returntothepit >> discuss >> Fact #565675 about why immigrants suck. by Hoser on Sep 18,2008 1:26pm
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toggletoggle post by Hoser at Sep 18,2008 1:26pm
We're stupid, please bring us your poor, tired, and hungry.


It is interesting that the federal government provides a
single refugee with a monthly allowance of $1,890.00
and each can also get an additional $580.00 in social assistance for a total of$2,470.00 .

This compares very well to a single pensioner who after contributing to the growth and development of America for 40 to 50 years can only receive a monthl y maximum of $1,012.00 in old age pension and Guaranteed Income Supplement.


Come back McCarthyism.....Come back!!!!!



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Sep 18,2008 1:33pm
Are you aware that "refugee" does not mean all immigrants? As a matter of fact, why don't you find out the percentage of immigrants that actually classify as a "refugee"? Because frankly i don't give a fuck if you think immigrant suck, but if your going to make such a statement, don't use such sophist reasoning. It doesn't become you.



toggletoggle post by grizloch   at Sep 18,2008 1:38pm
FUCK THE MEXICANS



toggletoggle post by thuringwethil at Sep 18,2008 2:07pm
Hoser said[orig][quote]
Come back McCarthyism.....Come back!!!!!


LOL, if that happens you will see ALL HEAVY METAL, actually all music that isn't a state anthem sanctioned by a committee, disappear. Count on it.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Sep 18,2008 2:07pm
The government has far more important things to spend money on than brown people, bailing out major financial institutions.

Come back regulatory agencies....Come back!!!!!



toggletoggle post by thuringwethil at Sep 18,2008 2:08pm
yeah, that's not going to happen. There's too many special interests at stake. We've all been through this before, NEVERMIND



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 18,2008 2:15pm
if this were true, explain led zepplin's immigrant song.
I thought not.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Sep 18,2008 2:17pm
Ouch, you remind me of Clinton with that statement.

Clinton: "Could you define the word "is", please?"



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Sep 18,2008 2:18pm
thuringwethil said[orig][quote]
Hoser said[orig][quote]
Come back McCarthyism.....Come back!!!!!


LOL, if that happens you will see ALL HEAVY METAL, actually all music that isn't a state anthem sanctioned by a committee, disappear. Count on it.


Hmmmm...didn't think of that. CRAP.




toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Sep 18,2008 2:25pm
Hoser said[orig][quote]
Ouch, you remind me of Clinton with that statement.

Clinton: "Could you define the word "is", please?"


Are you serious? Do you really think all immigrants get refugee funding? Honestly?



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Sep 18,2008 2:26pm
According to the 1951 United Nations Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees, a refugee is a person who

owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group, or political opinion, is outside the country of their nationality, and is unable to or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail him/herself of the protection of that country.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Sep 18,2008 2:27pm
Do you really think that just being an immigrant puts you in that catagory? You are mistaken sir. Very seriously mistaken.



toggletoggle post by aril at Sep 18,2008 2:29pm
great, now I have Tom Petty stuck in my head.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Sep 18,2008 2:29pm edited Sep 18,2008 2:31pm
Now, i assume you know what immigrant means, but i mine as well enlighten you encase you forgot: An immigrant is someone who enters a country that they are not native to. Thats it. It has nothing to do with escaping prosecution.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Sep 18,2008 2:30pm
Hoser said[orig][quote]
thuringwethil said[orig][quote]
Hoser said[orig][quote]
Come back McCarthyism.....Come back!!!!!


LOL, if that happens you will see ALL HEAVY METAL, actually all music that isn't a state anthem sanctioned by a committee, disappear. Count on it.


Hmmmm...didn't think of that. CRAP.


didnt really think at all, did we?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 18,2008 2:32pm
ouch made the point that I was going to make. Also, whenever any of our families came here, they were immigrants.
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Deal



toggletoggle post by thuringwethil at Sep 18,2008 2:34pm
Hoser said[orig][quote]
thuringwethil said[orig][quote]
Hoser said[orig][quote]
Come back McCarthyism.....Come back!!!!!


LOL, if that happens you will see ALL HEAVY METAL, actually all music that isn't a state anthem sanctioned by a committee, disappear. Count on it.


Hmmmm...didn't think of that. CRAP.



if you don't believe it check this out

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarran_Walter_Act

this was used to keep Venom out of the US during the reign of the PMRC in the 1980's



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 18,2008 2:35pm
LARISSA EXPLAINS IT ALL.

it always blows my mind when metalheads are so draconian that they will back christian zionists.
hailsatan.



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Sep 18,2008 2:46pm
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
LARISSA EXPLAINS IT ALL.

it always blows my mind when metalheads are so draconian that they will back christian zionists.
hailsatan.


Any metalhead that voted for Bush/votes for McPalin should have his record collection confiscated.

(and if this posts three times I'm leaving it because its worth saying three times)



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Sep 18,2008 2:49pm
here here!



toggletoggle post by aril at Sep 18,2008 2:52pm
it blows my mind that people STILL support bush.
even if you're a devout conservative, supporting bush after all the shit that's gone down is retarded.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 18,2008 2:55pm
hail satan



toggletoggle post by thuringwethil at Sep 18,2008 2:56pm
yeah well, I've noticed that every time Bush has opened his pie hole over the last several days, the Dow plunged even more



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Sep 18,2008 2:57pm
"i'll take the satan worshipping family down the street with all the good records." -Bill Hicks.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 18,2008 2:59pm
I think that john connelly backs bush. HOW THE FUCK CAN THE GUY THAT WRITE CITICAL MASS BACK BUSH? blows my mind. unless he's just doing it so songs about nuclear war stay en vogue.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Sep 18,2008 3:02pm
Josh_Martin said[orig][quote]
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
LARISSA EXPLAINS IT ALL.

it always blows my mind when metalheads are so draconian that they will back christian zionists.
hailsatan.


Any metalhead that voted for Bush/votes for McPalin should have his record collection confiscated.

(and if this posts three times I'm leaving it because its worth saying three times)


while i agree....i also refuse to support obama.
which leaves me in a dilema.
do i vote for someone else, and hope that my vote not counting doesn't help the worse of the two assholes win, or just stay home and watch some porn that day?



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Sep 18,2008 3:05pm
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
I think that john connelly backs bush. HOW THE FUCK CAN THE GUY THAT WRITE CITICAL MASS BACK BUSH? blows my mind. unless he's just doing it so songs about nuclear war stay en vogue.


trying to look up John Connelly, there are a ton of them, it looks like the "Connelly" that writes "Critical Mass" is Michael Connelly. Do I have the wrong one? Maybe point me to some reading?



toggletoggle post by thuringwethil at Sep 18,2008 3:06pm
the Democrats also censor, to a lesser degree, but they still censor. Tipper and Albert Gore were NOTORIOUS.

also keep in mind how no third party candidates are afforded the right to participate in the debates



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Sep 18,2008 3:07pm
as far as the whole immigrant thing, i will say that being an employee in a state run office, i see the good and bad side of immigration.

while there are (and have been in the past) so many immigrants who work hard and help out the country, there are just as many (if not more) who
1. are here illegally
2. don't speak english
3. don't work, or work under the table
4. contribute more to crime rates than anything else
5. collect welfare/free healthcare/food stamps etc.

(usually 2 or more of the above)

which is pretty fucked up when there are plenty of american born citizens, and legal immigrants who do so much and get so little in return



toggletoggle post by thuringwethil at Sep 18,2008 3:07pm
isn't John Connely the dude from Nuclear Assault?



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Sep 18,2008 3:08pm
thuringwethil said[orig][quote]
the Democrats also censor, to a lesser degree, but they still censor. Tipper and Albert Gore were NOTORIOUS.

also keep in mind how no third party candidates are afforded the right to participate in the debates


whoa dude,....
the democrats are getting wayyy worse.
because most of their devout supporters are easily offended and total hypocrites who scream for free speech out of one side of their mouth, and scream to take shock jocks off the radio waves and south park off of telivision out the other.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Sep 18,2008 3:09pm
thuringwethil said[orig][quote]
isn't John Connely the dude from Nuclear Assault?


that definately came up in my searches.. wasn't sure.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 18,2008 3:10pm
yes larissa.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handle_With_Care_(Nuclear_Assault_album)
I should have referred to the album and not the song



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Sep 18,2008 3:14pm
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
as far as the whole immigrant thing, i will say that being an employee in a state run office, i see the good and bad side of immigration.

while there are (and have been in the past) so many immigrants who work hard and help out the country, there are just as many (if not more) who
1. are here illegally
2. don't speak english
3. don't work, or work under the table
4. contribute more to crime rates than anything else
5. collect welfare/free healthcare/food stamps etc.

(usually 2 or more of the above)

which is pretty fucked up when there are plenty of american born citizens, and legal immigrants who do so much and get so little in return



I agree with you sir, and i do believe that measures should be taken to remove illegals who take part in this sort of behavior. But i also believe that there should be a better system in place for people who want to do the right thing to come here.

Anyone ever heard of Svalbard? Its a little archipelago north of norway. Technically its part of norway, half way between norways main land mass and the north pole. They have the BEST god damn rule regarding immigration. Not that i think it would work with anywhere having a population of more than 5000, but alas:
The government of Svalbard can, at any time, kick you off the islands if you show that you cannot support yourself, or if you are to much of a burden on the government. Great rule, although they do let almost anyone TRY to live there if they want to. You have to get a visa just like to most countries, but there is a coalition of something like 20countries that technically own the right to live there/mine coal there. (coal is svalbards main export.)



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Sep 18,2008 3:17pm
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
yes larissa.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handle_With_Care_(Nuclear_Assault_album)
I should have referred to the album and not the song


yeah, cause strangely enough Michael Connelly writes a book review column called "critical mass". haha. ya thats fucked up... he really supports bush?



toggletoggle post by thuringwethil at Sep 18,2008 3:24pm
Yeah well Johnny Ramone was also a major Reublican. Takes all kinds I guess



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Sep 18,2008 3:27pm
ouchdrummer said[orig][quote]
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
as far as the whole immigrant thing, i will say that being an employee in a state run office, i see the good and bad side of immigration.

while there are (and have been in the past) so many immigrants who work hard and help out the country, there are just as many (if not more) who
1. are here illegally
2. don't speak english
3. don't work, or work under the table
4. contribute more to crime rates than anything else
5. collect welfare/free healthcare/food stamps etc.

(usually 2 or more of the above)

which is pretty fucked up when there are plenty of american born citizens, and legal immigrants who do so much and get so little in return



I agree with you sir, and i do believe that measures should be taken to remove illegals who take part in this sort of behavior. But i also believe that there should be a better system in place for people who want to do the right thing to come here.

Anyone ever heard of Svalbard? Its a little archipelago north of norway. Technically its part of norway, half way between norways main land mass and the north pole. They have the BEST god damn rule regarding immigration. Not that i think it would work with anywhere having a population of more than 5000, but alas:
The government of Svalbard can, at any time, kick you off the islands if you show that you cannot support yourself, or if you are to much of a burden on the government. Great rule, although they do let almost anyone TRY to live there if they want to. You have to get a visa just like to most countries, but there is a coalition of something like 20countries that technically own the right to live there/mine coal there. (coal is svalbards main export.)


i definately agree with that dude!
i actually read a rant from an Austrailian political leader, that i wish America step up and follow the same principles.

[ Prime Minister John Howard - Australia ]

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.


Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques.


Quote: ;
'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS , MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians, as we have never seen before.
'

'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom.
'

'We speak mainly ENGLISH . not Spanish, Arabic, Japanese, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Russian, or any other language.
Therefore, if you wish to become pa rt of our society, then you have no choice but to learn 'our' language!'

'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christ ian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.
'

'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.
'

'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are finished complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom .. THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.
'

'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.
'

Maybe if we circulate this amongst ou rselves, American citizens will find the backbone to start speaking and voicing the same truths.






toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Sep 18,2008 3:28pm
here, this is some fucked up shit
check this out

IT'S THE LAW!!!

Found this to be most interesting. Thought you would too. HARSH, YOU SAY ??? BUT, IT'S THE LAW !!

1. There will be NO special bilingual programs in the schools, NO special ballots for elections, and all government business will be conducted in our language.

2. Foreigners will NOT have the right to vote, no matter how long they are here.

3. Foreigners will NEVER be able to hold political office.

4. Foreigners will NOT be a burden to the taxpayers. No welfare, NO food stamps, NO health care, nor any other government assistance programs.

5. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.

6. If foreigners do come and want to buy land that will be okay, BUT options will be restricted. You are NOT allowed to own waterfront property. That property is reserved for citizens naturally born into this country.

7. Foreigners may NOT protest; NO demonstrations, NO waving a foreign flag, NO political organizing, NO 'bad-mouthing' our president or his policies. If you do, you will be sent home.

8. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be hunted down and sent straight to jail.

Harsh, you say?

The above laws happen to be the
immigration laws of, MEXICO !



toggletoggle post by Mikeofdecrepitude at Sep 18,2008 3:30pm
grizloch said[orig][quote]
FUCK THE MEXICANS


Agreed, but Burritos are pretty fuckin sweet



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Sep 18,2008 3:30pm
9. Foreigner will hold a weekly concert on your property



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Sep 18,2008 3:32pm
Yeti said[orig][quote]
9. Foreigner will hold a weekly concert on your property

haaaaaaaahahahahahahaha



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Sep 18,2008 3:39pm
Australia friekin rules. That prime minister has his shit straight.



toggletoggle post by Murph  at Sep 18,2008 3:43pm
ouchdrummer said[orig][quote]
According to the 1951 United Nations Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees, a refugee is a person who

owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group, or political opinion, is outside the country of their nationality, and is unable to or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail him/herself of the protection of that country.


Unless you were a Communist or Socialist.

In that case, you're ability to read and comprehend other forms of thought and dissertation just means you're an asshole who hates freedom.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Sep 18,2008 4:06pm
ouchdrummer said[orig][quote]
Australia friekin rules. That prime minister has his shit straight.


fuck yeah!!!



toggletoggle post by TheGreatSpaldino   at Sep 18,2008 4:28pm
Hoser said[orig][quote]
We're stupid, please bring us your poor, tired, and hungry.


It is interesting that the federal government provides a
single refugee with a monthly allowance of $1,890.00
and each can also get an additional $580.00 in social assistance for a total of$2,470.00 .

This compares very well to a single pensioner who after contributing to the growth and development of America for 40 to 50 years can only receive a monthl y maximum of $1,012.00 in old age pension and Guaranteed Income Supplement.


Come back McCarthyism.....Come back!!!!!



so far at my new job... i can make like... 600 a month. how is it that the government will give four times that to some immigrants, but wont give me free healthcare so i can atleast not physically feel like shit while i make shit?



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at Sep 18,2008 4:29pm
TheGreatSpaldino said[orig][quote]
so far at my new job... i can make like... 600 a month. how is it that the government will give four times that to some immigrants, but wont give me free healthcare so i can atleast not physically feel like shit while i make shit?


reading is key sir...i think you missed a whole lot



toggletoggle post by TheGreatSpaldino   at Sep 18,2008 4:36pm
ok fine... four times that to a REFUGEE instead of like... you know... a person that was born here and stuff. i just want healthcare and it seems like it aint happening.



toggletoggle post by TheGreatSpaldino   at Sep 18,2008 4:37pm edited Sep 18,2008 4:38pm
ok fine... four times that to a REFUGEE instead of like... you know... a person that was born here and stuff. i just want healthcare and it seems like it aint happening ever. if this country could spell its name with dollar signs, it would.



well i fucked that up....



toggletoggle post by darkwor at Sep 18,2008 4:48pm
australia seems better every day.



toggletoggle post by thuringwethil at Sep 18,2008 4:54pm



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Sep 18,2008 4:58pm
darkwor said[orig][quote]
australia seems better every day.


if you played a different instument i would say lets move there and start a deathmetal band.... but your another drummer. Fucking sucks, all my buds are drummers, that makes starting side projects real hard. "The drummer curse" works backwards when your a drummer yourself!

...just kidding, being a drummer its easy to find people to play with.. haha.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Sep 18,2008 4:59pm
hahaha
i never saw this
i love the crocodile dundee joke though



toggletoggle post by DomesticTerror at Sep 18,2008 5:59pm
when are Australians gonna learn to speak english?



toggletoggle post by DomesticTerror at Sep 18,2008 6:03pm
also, if we got free healthcare, we'd just squander and exploit it. just what we need, all these lazy, obese, diabetic, BK snorting cunts taking more time off of work to go visit their PCP cuz they can't figure out why they've gone from 350 lbs to 450 lbs. we don't deserve free health care. join a gym, quit smoking, eat some fruit.
we should start demanding free dental.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Sep 18,2008 6:16pm
oh god, free dental is like a wet dream with Jessica Alba.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Sep 18,2008 6:23pm
DENTLPLAN



toggletoggle post by Seth at Sep 18,2008 6:32pm
Well my fiance is from australia and it is much nicer there and for every unwed child woman have they get about 3000 for them... each child!!! It is hot as hell about 100 to 107 in the summers. so have a xmas in that. It is nicer and cleaner!! Everything is free or discounted and the ones that dont work still get paid. I did not see one homeless person there!



toggletoggle post by Seth at Sep 18,2008 6:33pm
OH yeah I did not see one fat person there... really I felt like I was in a different world...!! Everything was new...even the houses etc...... fucken nice!!!



toggletoggle post by DomesticTerror at Sep 18,2008 6:46pm
don't forget the sharks and the ants that can kill you. fuck that.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 18,2008 6:50pm
that's a whole lotta love.



toggletoggle post by DomesticTerror at Sep 18,2008 6:59pm
bet you can't get a misty mountain hop reference in there.



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Sep 19,2008 8:36am
Fact, more innovation and invention has come from immigrants in the U.S. in the last 20 years than from native born Americans.

What they need to do is just slap a green card on every immigrant who comes here on student visa and gets a highly needed degree, such as engineers.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Sep 19,2008 8:46am
DomesticTerror said[orig][quote]
also, if we got free healthcare, we'd just squander and exploit it. just what we need, all these lazy, obese, diabetic, BK snorting cunts taking more time off of work to go visit their PCP cuz they can't figure out why they've gone from 350 lbs to 450 lbs. we don't deserve free health care. join a gym, quit smoking, eat some fruit.
we should start demanding free dental.


free dental would be amazing.
darby, i thought we were boys....you got a problem with fat lazy slobs biatch?
i'll sit on you!



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Sep 19,2008 8:46am
y_ddraig_goch said[orig][quote]
Fact, more innovation and invention has come from immigrants in the U.S. in the last 20 years than from native born Americans.

What they need to do is just slap a green card on every immigrant who comes here on student visa and gets a highly needed degree, such as engineers.


and thats the part that I think needs reforming. My wife was a surgeons assistant in Brazil, and she wanted to come here to go to more medical school to be a fucking doctor here. We ALWAYS need more good doctors. For Isis's sake, we have a nurse shortage too. And they wouldn't give her a visa/green card/anything equivalent. She pays taxes, works hard, doesnt brake any laws, works for a decent wage, so you can't say she's undercutting you for jobs, but yet with all that motivation she still has to fight and go to court to stay in this country. While there are illegals getting welfare, getting licences, and so on. It pisses us off to no end. While she is trying to do it right, and has all the right motivations, every white "redneck" in our wonderfully "liberal" state, harrases her about going back to mexico almost every day. Mainly because of what some other duchebags come here and try to do. And ya know what? She is NOT a rarity. I know all her friends, I have gone to parties of there's for a couple years now, almost once a week, and this whole big group is doing the right thing, and not accepting low (illegal) wages, and paying there taxes. Thats why it bothers me so much when people just listen to propaganda, don't actually know any immigrant families (legel or not) and never REALLY understand why they are here, or what their intentions are, but yet hate them anyways, like they ALL fit into the "raiding party" grouping that we need to weed out and send home. Open your eyes fuck bags, its a big world and our country is going downhill real real fast.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Sep 19,2008 8:47am
y_ddraig_goch said[orig][quote]
Fact, more innovation and invention has come from immigrants in the U.S. in the last 20 years than from native born Americans.

What they need to do is just slap a green card on every immigrant who comes here on student visa and gets a highly needed degree, such as engineers.


while that may or may not be true, there is still a flood of overpopulation coming from illegals who will never learn english, and have a kid every 10 months.




toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Sep 19,2008 8:48am
morning buddy. (orgy) hey, you a fat dude too?! Nice, cause otherwise i dunno if we could brew together. No one trusts skinny brewers. Just like no one wants a skinny cook.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Sep 19,2008 8:51am
ouchdrummer said[orig][quote]
morning buddy. (orgy) hey, you a fat dude too?! Nice, cause otherwise i dunno if we could brew together. No one trusts skinny brewers. Just like no one wants a skinny cook.


hahaha, oh yeah brother, i am the fat god!
6'4"
400 pounds of filth -l-

the funny thing is, one of the best chefs i know, is skinny as a rail, and the guy who taught me how to brew weighs 95 pounds.

but there are exceptions to every rule i guess, but in general, i do agree with you, always trust a fat dude when it comes to food and beer!!



toggletoggle post by darkwor at Sep 19,2008 9:13am
I work at Worcester State, and for every dumb suburban frosted blonde and college night redsox hat/guido/ski jump guy type that are only here because they HAVE to go to school to please their parents, or because they just have no idea what they wanna do so they become business majors (all a little harsh i know), there's an immigrant from Africa, China, India, Brazil, Puerto Rico, and so on, that are so psyched to be able to go to school and learn and work their ass off. Biotechnology, Mathematics, they're our future engineers and doctors. It seems like a generalization but from graduating from here and working here (basically living here) for over 5 years altogether, it's all become more and more apparent. I work in IT here and from examining where the data flows, I have the benefit of being able to keep an eye on what's going on. I walked past a group of 30 Chinese students this morning that I know have been here for a month and they'll stay here until they get their masters and Ph.Ds. It's like that in every school around here. Some intend on staying but most intend on returning home and using their knowledge there. While the frosty blondes are getting their trendy and useless Psychology degrees.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Sep 19,2008 9:20am
seriously...there are americans on the fringes, there are immigrants on the fringes. There are social programs for both that are doing more than our economy can handle but not enough to get a lot of these people out of the dregs.

It's a shitty situation, there need to be new programs introduced. But shutting the doors to immigrants doesn't touch the actual heart of the issue, which is the respective and sometimes mutual greed of the government and the elite.



toggletoggle post by darkwor at Sep 19,2008 9:23am
i'm the skinny guy who will burn your steak and give it to you with a slice of white bread and a glass of tap water. have an immigrant cook it.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 19,2008 9:25am
other countries have a brain drain to the USA



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Sep 19,2008 10:06am
it's not that we should close the doors to immigrants.
it's that we should put more effort into taking care of our own, before trying to take care of the rest of the world.

it's letting illegals off the hook, and trying help other countries that put our country so far in debt....that and the war.

i think they need to crack down on border security, kick out all illegal immigrants, and put a pause on immigration until we get a handle on the overpopulation thing.

otherwise we'll end not being able to drive anywhere because the roads will all be one big traffic jam, we'll have to hire people to pack passengers into the subways (like japan), and we'll have an even weaker economy because there will be more people, less money and less employment oppurtunities



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Sep 19,2008 12:25pm
They take all the good ditch digging jobs.



toggletoggle post by DomesticTerror at Sep 19,2008 1:56pm
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
DomesticTerror said[orig][quote]
also, if we got free healthcare, we'd just squander and exploit it. just what we need, all these lazy, obese, diabetic, BK snorting cunts taking more time off of work to go visit their PCP cuz they can't figure out why they've gone from 350 lbs to 450 lbs. we don't deserve free health care. join a gym, quit smoking, eat some fruit.
we should start demanding free dental.


free dental would be amazing.
darby, i thought we were boys....you got a problem with fat lazy slobs biatch?
i'll sit on you!


yer 400 lbs of rape. i'm 135 lbs of cunt. you are the alpha and i the omega.
plus you snuggle nice.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Sep 19,2008 2:01pm
hah!



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Sep 19,2008 2:40pm
wow... that was strangely arousing.



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